very good point! the only aesthetic i have come up with that is essential to this genre is actual sound. the quality of the sound that is, a thick sound i believe is fundamental in the composition. of course thats just my humble opinion! ian --Boundary_(ID_cd8nSikZgDIp9vcq5FrBzQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] failure" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit