okay i confess i dont know anything about morton subotnick so i dont know if this is old news to m.s. fans but i came across this the other day if anyone is interested. subotnick has three cd-roms available through Voyager CD-ROMs , the first being "making music, the first real composing space for kids", second is "more making music", and third is "all my hummingbirds have alibis". rko.