Lets wait a while til more of us have a chance to read Doug Kahn's book. give me a week or two and I'd LOVE to chat with him. Tired of being a lurker. Now in the fold. KK 320 Esplanade #55 Pacifica, CA 94044 vm: 415-289-2029 cell: 415-606-9046 http://www.sirius.com/~kathyk