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Re: [microsound] Neubauten & contact mics






Yes I agree about Tsunoda's works, fantastic....I hate to be a Koner flag
waver; but his live piece "Alchemie" is really a wonderful thing to be seen
live. He works with a filmmaker Jurgen Reble. The film is chemically
treated, burned etc.. live with Thomas lifting sounds from various sources.
Amazing!

Would make a mess of your carpet at home! 

-Praveer


















At 08:36 AM 10/03/2001 +0900, you wrote:
>From:  "Jeremy Tolsma" <ccws@xxxxxxxx>
>
>>>I remember hearing about an Einsturzende Neubauten gig where they burnt a
>>>load of black plastic refuse sacks over large drums of water, which were
>>>mic'd up with contact mics and also normal mics. Apparently the molten
>>>plastic hitting the waters surface sounded fantastic..
>
>>I think I saw this it was the tabula rasa show and they wouldve used
>>open-air mikes to catch that fizzle.  Contact mics are useless for picking
>>up something like that though, as they would be for picking up an electric
>>shaver or a vibrating speaker.  I think EN dropped ballbearings or 
>>something
>>on a sheet of metal that had a contact mic attatched at the same show.
>>Anyway have any of you guys actually tried picking up vibrations with a
>>contact mic?  You have to amplify it so much that its basically acting as 
>>an
>>open air mike with weak signal.  Contact mics dont require amplification,
>>but they have to be physically struck or mashed or scraped or attatched to
>>something struck or mashed or scraped.  The whole deal with them is that
>>they don't register many of the residual vibrations, mostly the initial
>>attack.
>
>Before, i disagree, i'd like to ask you of what quality you're contact mics 
>are and if you're only affixing them to thick somewhat motionless 
>(non-vibratory) solid bodies. although it isn't always neccessary, try 
>putting a good quality contact mic on something quite flexible and you can 
>get quite a bit of sound out of it, without having to jack up the amp so 
>much at all. check out WrK, especially one of Toshiya Tsunoda's work, where 
>he recorded the vibrations of a steel fence between a parking lot & a 
>highway, (eerie & wonderful noise).
>
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