Re: [microsound] completely OT yet so on-topic

[david turgeon <david.t@xxxxxxxx>]

> ah, sorry I failed to see that everything is the fault of capitalism. More
> people died under communist regimes in the 20th century, then under fascist
> ones (war victims included). Stalin's agraric five year plans were
> perfectely executed, how many died? 30 million? But for you it's either the
> fault of capitalism or the struggle from feudalism to communism, hurray for
> death in order to progress. Just as I despise fascism, I despise communism,
> both are small groups of ideologic fanatics controlling large masses,
> taking their individually for the bigger sake, their own sake. Ever seen
> the enormous wealth of Ceasuscu? Was that wealth spread over the workers?
> or was he a secret capitalist?

ah, i would so like to know how many deaths are directly related to the
U.S. government financing war in other countries though...  but that's
another matter altogether.

anyway.  just to clear up the issue...  i promise this is my last public
post on the topic, but there's some confusion here.

- "communism" is a type of government.  however, history has shown that
usually, when a country says they are "communist" they are really
something else (let's call this "pseudo-communism" to avoid confusion).

- "totalitarianism" is a type of politic (i.e. the way to implement the
government).  i hear it works wonders.  (yes!  that's sarcastic.)

we tend to think both are one & the same, which is a mistake some
capitalists continue to capitalize on in order to show that "communism
is bad".

with the U.S., it's the other way around.

- "capitalism" is a type of government.  very easy to put forth as it
essentially means freedom to the capital.  in its barest form it means
"no government".

- "democracy" is a type of politic.  never seen in its true form, except
maybe in antique greece (& even that was restricted to "citizens",
namely free men).

i don't think anyone has to debate whether totalitarianism is bad; we
all know it is.  the ideal politic is, as far as we know, democratic
(not pseudo-democratic), but the ideal government is certainly not
capitalist...

of course, there are other, less extreme, types of governments, such as
socialism, which is good because extremes are usually not the safest
place to be.  i'm using generalizations only for clarity's sake.  but
please, let's just not pretend that communism (or any left-wing
government) _has_ to be totalitarian, or that democracy as it exists
right now is a system guaranteeing absolute freedom for the people. 
fascism can very well be "democratic": look at milosevic...  (& didn't
hitler get elected, too?)

~ david