Re: [microsound] art of noise

[frans@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

>> > it's usually in terms of how different fasciscm is from national
>> > socialism...

much of what you write below is based on the differencies I hinted at
above. Mussolini's fascism wasn't about racial issues until he got
controlled by Hitler after his debacle in an african war. up until then in
many countries fascism (not hitler's national socialism) was seen as a
progressive new movement, and the line between people submitting to
anarchism and fascism was very small. they all wanted to replace the old
system by something new. so naturally progressive artists were attracted to
these ideas. I believe (but i'm sure I'll be corrected) Marinetti ended as
a minister under Mussolini (or was it the painter Balla? - one of those lot
anyway).

>art is always a naive & idealistic thing, & its best ideas usually end
>up subverted.  i think in the beginning of the century one could still
>believe that fascism was a good thing.  obviously mussolini, hitler &
>all fascists since did much to give it the bad name that it now has.
>fascism _is_ about "superior beings" (unlike communism which is about
>"all being equal") but its historical applications (italy, germany,
>france...) only allowed certain people (based on race, sex, orientation,
>etc.) to be considered as "superior", & there is no room for people to
>"become" something more unless they are aryan, & there is certainly no
>will that people go by without leaders either.
>
>the "fascism" most futurists agreed with probably had more to do with
>anarchism than actual fascism, & now that i'm thinking of it, so did
>early communism.  (to continue the symmetry, one could argue that the
>main flaw of applied communism was that some people, i.e. the leaders,
>were granted the power to be "superior" than the rest, though not on
>genetic grounds.)
>
>all this to say that it's probable early futurists were thrilled about
>the "personal empowerment" aspect of fascism & not about the (properly
>despicable) eugenic features its practice brought forth.  i am, of
>course, only grossly extrapolating, but one has to remember that we're
>talking about something which happened almost a hundred years ago, at a
>time when the most pressing thing was to get rid of... monarchy.
>
>~ david
>
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