Re: [microsound] politics of music: online labels

[david turgeon <david.t@xxxxxxxx>]

> > some of the most original music is hidden
> >on the net somewhere, & its author probably doesn't even think of
> >themselves as a "valid" musician (because like most they have been led
> >to think you're not a musician until you get a contract).
> and not only b/c of that, but also cos their music isnt available in a
> commodity form. they cant participate in the buying and selling of "product"
> (as i recently heard kylie minogue refer to her music by), they're not real
> people! (iron.)

right!!  & did you ever wonder what people did when there were no
discs?!!  what did they do with the musical instruments if they couldn't
sell recorded versions of sounds made with them?!?!  gee!!!

> where are you at david (url-wise)?

http://www.notype.com

later this week with new things from kanito, morceaux_de_machines & zammuto.

> ps. glad to see we've moved onto something constructive whil the
> >completelyOT< thread goes off its head. pity it couldnt have been maintained at
> a more civil level though, as i think we have everything to gain from a
> _reasonable_ and _reasoned_ discussion.

agreed.  there comes a point, when you try to defend a point of view,
where you are eventually tempted to resort to irrational arguments &
insult those with a dissimilar opinion, forgetting that dissimilar
opinions are much more constructive than irrational arguments.  if
anything, such discussions make you understand how crucial it is to be
conciliatory & concise when posting on mailng lists, in order to go somewhere.

also, some people _really_ enjoy having the last word; if you want to
play that game, fine.  but then do it privately.

sheesh, i do say stupid things on mailing lists every so often but at
least i realize it.  the gas has been wrecking my mind quite all right
in the past week though, i must say.  i just wish that topic hadn't
drifted into capitalism vs communism, which is quite a stupid argument
to begin with (but then, so was the argument on the "moment of
execution" a little while back).

> >the biggest problem from that point onward
> >(at least if you intend to make it into a "career") is popularity: how
> >to build a fan base.
> do you or many of the artists with whom you have contact really see this as
> a priority david?  what about the rest of you? can one make a career out of
> freely distributing mp3s? would one want to?
> what precisely did you mean by the word "career" here?

i purposely put it into quotes because "career" may mean anything an
artist intends to do with his music, commercially or not.  what
popularity really brings is a sense of recognition, whether as a
positive response or as critique/criticism.  perhaps i've not used the
best word.  :)  i'm not one to believe art should be done in a vacuum;
one of the purposes of art is to somehow reach someone (although in many
cases such as mine, that someone is first & foremost the artist
themselves).  as for spending your whole life distributing mp3s because
you don't care about the business aspect, why not?

~ david
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