Re: [microsound] Softsynths and orginality

[Michal Seta <mis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

<sarcasm-hat-on>
I think I will, after all, recycle that Risset patch I did for one of my
classes.
Long live charming experiments!
<sarcasm-hat-off>

let's rewind a bit to the discussion of "the sound of the tools".
it'd be an interesting activity to get people on this list to take their
favorite tool (MSP,PD,
Csound,AudioMulch,C,C++,Assembly,Perl,Python,Squeak,Kyma,GRM,Buzz,etc etc)
and code up a Shepard tone patch.  It'd be fun to compare "the sound of the
tools"

hey?


../MiS



on 7/31/01 9:56 AM, Derek Pierce at d.pierce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi Paul
> i think you may have heard the track by me ie BEATSYSTEM on the EM:t label.
> I did do
> it in Csound and sent it to the company to show them what i was up too .They
> like it so much they released it
> I have used it since in other pieces and I agree with your thoughts on this.
> If people derive some enjoyment out of what was orginally an experiment then
> who am I to argue. #
> 
> Derek Pierce
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Wroth <pixipuxk@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:43 AM
> Subject: [microsound] Softsynths and orginality
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think the decision on whether something ought to be released or not
>> depends on how much balls the person has. I heard a track a while back
>> that I swear was nothing but the AudioMulch Sheppard Tones generator
>> for several minutes. And you know what - it worked - even though I was
>> familiar with the software that produced the sound, I really enjoyed
>> the piece. The fact that someone went to the trouble of recording and
>> releasing it, the fact that an experienced experimental DJ went to the
>> trouble of playing it , caused a re-contextualization.
>> 
>> Maybe it wasn't AudioMulch - maybe the creator read up on Sheppard
>> Tones and laboriously coded a score for Csound and rendered it over two
>> weeks on their 486. I could have exclaimed - 'Pah! I could have created
>> that track in less time than it takes to listen to it! No creative
>> effort whatsover'. I didn't. I don't walk into art galleries and say
>> 'Pah! I could have given paints to a five year old and gotten something
>> better' either.
>> 
>> We may be over-familiaar with these sounds, and some tracks we hear may
>> sound identical to what we were doing yesterday, just playing with
>> granular synthesis and a bit of feedback. The thing is, didn't it sound
>> cool when you were doing it? What makes you think other people wouldn't
>> enjoy hearing it too? There are heaps of fantastic releases that
>> wouldn't exist if the person sitting there playing with his guitar and
>> FX boxes hadn't thought to press 'record'. The same goes for computer
>> genrated pieces.  If you think it sounds good, then maybe it is good.
>> 
>> The other thing to remeber is that we should be releasing these kind of
>> sounds because they will be forming part of our musical history. These
>> are the sounds that people of today are working with, in a few years
>> time, things will sound different.
>> 
>> Paul
>> http://evilpaul.ihateclowns.com
>> http://www.mp3.com/PaulWroth
>> 
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