Re: [microsound] Re: Attempt at Understanding of "Emotional Calousness"

[komons@xxxxxx]

You hit the nail with that post.
I totally agree. Adding to that one could 
say : "It's because of Bush"
I say, its because of the system, Bush being only the tip of
the iceberg.
All my hopes are for a good ending, which would be fighting against terrorists,
protecting countries from terrorists, supporting countries (without expecting
ANYTHING in return).

revenge is blind
we have to open our eyes
we have to see the dark side of media (remember the times it was used for propaganda.)
repetition will hammer the facts into your plate

They try to build up an image of the bearded terrorist country,
HOWEVER, there is NO country where there are only terrorists,
insane people....
Not all animals are equal?
some are more equal than others!

don't be more equal! We are all the same.

However, terrorists deserve to be hunted down, as they ar a treat to society
as well as to the world peace.

If there wern't  bad people amongst us, we wouldn't know what good ones are.
Reverse, if wanted.

Show that the opposite to the terrorists exists in a PROPER matter.

PEACE
                Hans


13.09.01 21:05:07, Joseph Siemion <jsiemion@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>There are many ways people respond to tragedy. Some feel it in their guts
>and cry.  Others intellectualize it... Both are legitimate forms of
>response, one more widely accepted than another. 
>
>While I strongly agree that srj?s posts have been unnecessarily
>inflammatory, callous, and lack any kind of (mature) judgment, they point
>to a truth, and one that many people here (and some of those in the more
>intellectual, white, middle-upper class) feel:  
>
>There is a large organization, the largest in the world, that directly
>and indirectly causes untold suffering around the world.  The people who
>are associated with this org. do not see, hear, feel, or care about the
>enormous suffering that the org. with which they are associated inflicts.
> All of a sudden, the harvest that has been sown by this org. has been
>reaped, and much of that suffering has come back to haunt it, and more
>importantly, the innocent people associated with it. Period. 
>
>There are many possible responses to this.  One response that we are
>seeing here at m.sound is that people have been angry, very angry about
>the actions this organization, the US, does.  They see, from
>international media and other sources, the families and individual lives
>that are wrecked all over the world: innocent people.  And they see
>absolutely no remorse from the US or those people associated with it. 
>Now, this here tragedy hits; and to many, it almost feels something like
>justice IS being served.  Of course, innocent people should NEVER die.
>Never, and there is never a justification or justice in innocent people
>dying.  But it is a worldwide reality, and one that is commonly
>experienced by our brothers in Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Colombia, Cuba,
>Afghanistan, Libya, and so on?
>
>And so many of us are angry that innocent people in these countries are
>dying as a direct or indirect result of the US.  We feel their sorrow and
>read about their tragedy (in my case, the situations in Iraq and
>Palestine cause my a lot of grief and suffering).  We don?t feel or care
>that these people are from a different country ? what?s the difference??
>Americans, Palestinians, Iraqis ? we are all the same!  But those in the
>US do not see this; they just don?t care. 
>
>I think many of us don?t identify as Americans so much as people.  And so
>if this attack had taken place somewhere in Africa or the middle east, we
>all know it couldn?t compete with the Shandra Levy media coverage in the
>American collective consciousness.  But because it happened ?here?, it?s
>suddenly as if the world had ended.  Now, 500,000 Tutsis died in three
>months some 6 years ago, which really didn?t register within the American
>consciousness: this event times 33, assuming 15,000 dead.
>
>I think you see where I am going with this.  My point of this post is to
>try to shed some light on what might be and seem like complete emotional
>callousness.  This isn?t about politics as someone had suggested; it?s
>more about a national callousness toward ?others? and ?those over there?
>and those of us who feel angry, hurt, and irritated about...
>
>"all i've heard is,  more gov't spending, bigger military budget, cops on
>planes, first hijacking attempt in 10 years, remove habeus corpus, will
>hunt
>down the aggressors and MAKE THEM PAY ...
>i haven't heard one intelligent comment on TV and only a select few in
>day
>to day affairs ...." (Jonah Dempcy)
>
>... this callousness.
>
>best,
>joe
>
>
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