Re: [microsound] Re: Attempt at Understanding of "Emotional Calousness"

[yatra arts <yatra-arts@xxxxxxxx>]

I agree...bottom line many disturbed people on this earth.
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  From: a l an b a m fo rd 
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  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Attempt at Understanding of "Emotional Calousness"


  Im un subbing until ww 3 is over...I just dont have time to read, or 
  even check for relevence to me...100+ posts a day

  ab

  Once upon a time Joseph Siemion muttered:

  > 
  > There are many ways people respond to tragedy. Some feel it in their guts
  > and cry.  Others intellectualize it... Both are legitimate forms of
  > response, one more widely accepted than another. 
  > 
  > While I strongly agree that srj's posts have been unnecessarily
  > inflammatory, callous, and lack any kind of (mature) judgment, they point
  > to a truth, and one that many people here (and some of those in the more
  > intellectual, white, middle-upper class) feel:  
  > 
  > There is a large organization, the largest in the world, that directly and
  > indirectly causes untold suffering around the world.  The people who are
  > associated with this org. do not see, hear, feel, or care about the
  > enormous suffering that the org. with which they are associated inflicts.
  >  All of a sudden, the harvest that has been sown by this org. has been
  > reaped, and much of that suffering has come back to haunt it, and more
  > importantly, the innocent people associated with it. Period. 
  > 
  > There are many possible responses to this.  One response that we are
  > seeing here at m.sound is that people have been angry, very angry about
  > the actions this organization, the US, does.  They see, from international
  > media and other sources, the families and individual lives that are
  > wrecked all over the world: innocent people.  And they see absolutely no
  > remorse from the US or those people associated with it. Now, this here
  > tragedy hits; and to many, it almost feels something like justice IS being
  > served.  Of course, innocent people should NEVER die. Never, and there is
  > never a justification or justice in innocent people dying.  But it is a
  > worldwide reality, and one that is commonly experienced by our brothers in
  > Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Colombia, Cuba, Afghanistan, Libya, and so on.
  > 
  > And so many of us are angry that innocent people in these countries are
  > dying as a direct or indirect result of the US.  We feel their sorrow and
  > read about their tragedy (in my case, the situations in Iraq and Palestine
  > cause my a lot of grief and suffering).  We don't feel or care that these
  > people are from a different country - what's the difference?? Americans,
  > Palestinians, Iraqis - we are all the same!  But those in the US do not
  > see this; they just don't care. 
  > 
  > I think many of us don't identify as Americans so much as people.  And so
  > if this attack had taken place somewhere in Africa or the middle east, we
  > all know it couldn't compete with the Shandra Levy media coverage in the
  > American collective consciousness.  But because it happened "here", it's
  > suddenly as if the world had ended.  Now, 500,000 Tutsis died in three
  > months some 6 years ago, which really didn't register within the American
  > consciousness: this event times 33, assuming 15,000 dead.
  > 
  > I think you see where I am going with this.  My point of this post is to
  > try to shed some light on what might be and seem like complete emotional
  > callousness.  This isn't about politics as someone had suggested; it's
  > more about a national callousness toward "others" and "those over there"
  > and those of us who feel angry, hurt, and irritated about...
  > 
  > "all i've heard is,  more gov't spending, bigger military budget, cops on
  > planes, first hijacking attempt in 10 years, remove habeus corpus, will
  > hunt down the aggressors and MAKE THEM PAY ... i haven't heard one
  > intelligent comment on TV and only a select few in day to day affairs
  > ...." (Jonah Dempcy)
  > 
  > ... this callousness.
  > 
  > best,
  > joe
  > 
  > 
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  > 
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  > 
  >                                      Tibor Kalman
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