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Re: [microsound] stockhausen/tolsma



I'll second Micheal's sentiments here. I had no idea anyone was kicked off
the list....


On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Michael Greenwood wrote:

>   Jeremy
>      I'm not much of a poster, but for what it's worth, I give a shit.
> I agree with most of your posts and find your sense of humour and
> honesty a welcome change.  I didn't know that you were kicked off the
> list and I likely would have stood by quietly if I'd found out.  I'm not
> very aggressive.  Let's hope censorship  of all kinds (quiet and loud)
> is on the rise, it can only be good for everyone.  I've always enjoyed
> having my decisions made for me...frees up a great deal of time.
> 
>      Michael Greenwood
> 
> party peanuts wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi everyone, Jeremy Tolsma here... I noticed a few
> > days ago that I was not getting any more posts from
> > microsound in my email box.  It seems I was quietly
> > deleted from the microsound list for the 'sell it on
> > ebay' remark.
> >
> > I was just going to go on with my life but then I read
> > Stockhausen's quote in the newspaper today and I was
> > struck with the irony; Stockhausen is a hero on this
> > mailing list, he could advocate eugenics as an artform
> > and nobody here would kick him off the list.  You'd
> > all be chatting him up and trying to kiss his ass.  Oh
> > sure a few of you have the guts to speak out against
> > him here but would you if he were on the list?  Didn't
> > think so.  You'd be burning too many bridges wouldnt
> > you.  It might affect your chances of moving from CD-R
> > to some yuppy vanity label.
> >
> > I see a few of you making excuses for old Stocky.. did
> > anyone make any fuss when I was kicked off this list?
> > Did anyone know I was kicked off this list?  Does
> > anyone give a shit?  Didn't think so.
> >
> > I think the majority of posters on this group are
> > braindead idol worshippers.  You have your classic
> > idols that are used to give this list a sense of
> > history and purpose, such as Stockhausen or Xenakis,
> > Cage or Riley etc, who never logged onto this list.
> > Then you've got your resident idols who use the
> > mythology to exhalt themselves.  I'm referring to the
> > Kim Cascones and Taylor Duprees with their lesser
> > minions, the Ben Neviles and David Turgeons.  These
> > little clerics scurry around and suck each others
> > cocks in order to reinforce their hegemony.
> >
> > But things go topsy-turvey when one of the
> > mythological Gods makes extreme statements about
> > situations that the clerics have already banished
> > infidels for merely referencing.
> >
> > "Dont be so senstive, Marc"
> >
> > ...
> >
> > "I dont want to see poor Stockie have his character
> > assassinated"
> >
> > Well I guess even 5000 people dying didn't help you
> > guys realize how stupid your little microsound group
> > grope is.  Its business as usual for all you slimy
> > fucks, eh?
> >
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Ian Yeager         
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