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>Im coming for the same school of thought as your self this is why I have


>such a hard time morally when I see requests like that.


>I to play out often both out of and in town and never make a request that


>I dont see are part of the bare essentials to cover my personal costs.


>Its not about making a profits its about sharting your ideas with people


>getting your ideas accross to them seeing thier reactions ect ect..


>this whole music for profit thing dones not sit well with me...


>in fact after this many years of promoting its the one thing that has


>tunred me off more then any thing else to it all. Not the low turn outs,


>not the problems with club owners, not the fact that very little people


>understand what its about, not the lack of media support for it, all this


>I can deal with in fact I understand it. Its the bloated artist egos that


>I cant understand. since when does any fringe sort of music deserve to be


>treated economically on par with the way a stadium rock band is?


>If I could book a microsound artist into a large venue and get a public


>willing to come out for it and pay 30 to 40 dollars a head or even 20


>dollars a ticket I wouldnt have as much of a problem with it. But when all


>that can be done with such artists are small venues with low ticket prices


>where does the microsound artist get off asking for as much as some large


>venue artists... there needs to be some kind of relaity check in place.


>And no this is not sour grapes as I continue to do these events out of my


>own personal interest in the music I just think we all need to stop and


>look a the reality of it all, just becasue there are a few events such a


>mutek, sonar, fcmm, tranmissions) that can afford to pay artists fees like


>this and do it up in posh stylie does not mean that some guy who does not


>have the granting support system in place like these larger festivals do


>can afford to do it up in the same way. I think as artists we need to do


>that and take into consideration each and every booking as a seperate


>buisness venture. SOme times you have a large investor and some times you


>dont, some times you buy into some thing that you gain from and some times


>you loose from it. But in the long run more people get to taste your


>product as a result of these lost and gained ventures.


>


>Neil...


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>On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, jean paul l'asthme wrote:


>


> >


> >--- Neil Wiernik wrote:


> >


> >> I get insane requests for gurreentees of hundreds of


> >> dollars in USD of


> >> course (even when they are from germany or some


> >> other place), requests for


> >> first class flights, delux hotel rooms, ect ect...


> >


> >this is very disappointing to hear for a few reasons.


> >one, which perhaps was a very naive mistake on my


> >behalf, is that i assumed that somehow the digital


> >arts were a little progressive (ideologically


> >speaking)


> >to at least the extent that we understand that these


> >sorts of things (silly posh spoiled requests) are not


> >essential... secondly, it is sad to think that more


> >performers are not willing to spread the gospel of


> >their music purely because it is an honor to have the


> >opportunity to communicate that way... as a computer


> >musician myself, i've played many shows without


> >expecting compensation, and accepted a residency at a


> >club for free, not because i think the exposure is an


> >incredible opportunity (though, if luck plays itself


> >out, i suppose that can happen too), but because i


> >hope


> >that someone who just happens to wander in that night


> >not knowing what to expect can hopefully enjoy what my


> >music has to say. i'll be playing my first show far


> >away from my home later this month, and i'll be doing


> >it at a loss, but it's exciting to know that people in


> >some far off place, who would never make it to this


> >club, or never even know my music existed can still


> >hear it... which is not to imply that i think that my


> >music is some amazing profound thing that must be


> >heard


> >by all, but it is the way which i can express myself


> >and communicate with others in my own language, and i


> >love that i can do that. i hope that if things do


> >take


> >off for me at some point, i don't get that bloated


> >sense of self worth that seems to come with attention


> >or adulation. i can safely say though, that even if


> >i do end up amounting to nothing monetarily (which is


> >to say, if i keep at these curse'd retail jobs


> >forever)


> >i will continue to make music, at a loss, or breaking


> >even, or at whatever profit i can manage, purely


> >because i must do it...


> >naively,


> >gregory


> >


> >


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