> > [... there are NO java or pascal externals...] yes, c74 Max/MSP externals are written in straight C, not java. but, there is also: http://www.ircam.fr/jmax other avenues for java dsp exploration: http://www.softsynth.com/jsyn/ http://www.pipeline.com/~gogins/ ..... http://www.miau-miau.com