RE: [microsound] eno: wired or tired or perceptive?

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"The great benefit [of tools like Cubase] is that they remove the issue of
skill, and replace it with the issue of judgment. With Cubase or [an imaging
program like] Photoshop, anybody can actually do anything, and you can make
stuff that sounds very much like stuff you'd hear on the radio, or looks
very much like anything you'd see in magazines. So the question becomes not
whether you can do it or not, because any drudge can do it if they're
prepared to sit in front of the computer for a few days; the question then
is: of all the things you can do now, which do you choose to do? This is a
whole issue for which there are not manuals!"
-Brian Eno


> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Garry Kling [mailto:kling007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Enviado el: Sabado, 27 de Octubre de 2001 08:56 p.m.
> Para: .microsound
> Asunto: Re: [microsound] eno: wired or tired or perceptive?
>
>
> on 27/10/2001 03:34 PM, Michal Seta at mis@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > On 10/27/01 2:54 PM, Kamal Joory @ geiom@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>> "I don't think
> >>> (computer-reliant producers)
> >>> are aware of what particularly
> >>> stilted music they make. You
> >>> can't do anything interesting
> >>> with cutting-edge technology
> >>> except not make it
> >>> cutting-edge."
> >>> - Brian Eno, the electronic and
> >>> ambient music pioneer, on
> >>> why today's computer-crafted
> >>> tunes are lame.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hmm
> >>
> >> quite pretentious
> >>
> >> does it strike a chord ?
> >
> > is it really?
> > I tend to agree with that statement.  And I don't consider myself
> > pretentious.  In fact, I do music with computers and often I
> think the same
> > exact thing about my own work.  I only hope that my next work will be
> > better!
> >
>
> Well put. If his statement hurts your feelings, maybe you should decide on
> which side of the fence your work is - novelty or artistry.
>
> This question is as old as instruments, every period has its innovators,
> dabblers, and crappy artists {and trainspotting fan boys ;) } that can't
> tell the difference. I agree with the sentiment, but it leaves
> out the fact
> that a lot of new stuff comes from this search for the "cutting
> edge" and by
> playing out all the possibilities it presents.
>
> As much as I respect and dig Brian Eno, I have to say this quote
> represents
> such a pedestrian observation that it could have come from anyone. I'm not
> criticizing him - I'm sure he thinks it's obvious too. And I don't think
> it's pretentious, just a little bit incisive.
>
> Do I think we should keep trying to make "new art" by pushing our
> resources?
> Of course. Should we relinquish artistic taste and what our ears
> tell us in
> favor of the new technology fetishism? No. Should we avoid "the cutting
> edge" technology? Only your attitude and ability can make your music good,
> regardless of your tool. But new tools create new opportunities,
> and that's
> where the creative minds come in to make something fresh that doesn't rely
> on novelty to make a statement. So no, we should try to use it, if we have
> the judgement to tell the difference.
>
> ^Garry
>
>
> --
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