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From: "Geert Lovink" <geert@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 9:38 PM
Subject: <nettime> mpyadav on emotions


>
> From: mpyadav <mpyadav@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Subject :  In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
> Subject :  Fast visuals/words/breathing  make slow emotions extinct.
> Subject :  A fast society labels all slow /painful emotions as disease.
> Subject :  Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys ability for
> subjective-experience.
>
> Dear nettimers,
>
> The following article is about emotions.  This has got a direct link with
> harmful effects of fast culture and psychology/ sociology/ psychiatry .
> It is the overstimulated modern/urban lifestyle which is causing
> psychological distress and the entire humanity is suffering.  I request
> you to forward the article to all such people who might take interest in
> this topic.
>
> Also seeking help for conducting experiment.
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Sushil yadav
>
> --
>
> Please note : The article has been written in short sentences rather than
> paragraph-form because it is about subjective experience/
> emotion/elimination of thought.  Emotion is different from word-emotion
> can only be experienced subjectively. Taste cannot be
> explained/experienced through words. Smell cannot be explained/experienced
> through words.
>
> Subject :  In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
> Subject :  Fast visuals/words/breathing  make slow emotions extinct.
> Subject :  A fast society labels all slow /painful emotions as disease.
> Subject :  Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys ability
> for subjective-experience.
>
> Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking.
>
> If there are no gaps there is no emotion.
>
> Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/
> language) for emotion.
>
> When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental
> work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the
> speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go
> on decreasing.
>
> There comes a time when there are almost no gaps.
>
> People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps.
>
> Emotion ends.
>
> Man becomes machine.
>
> [ Rate/speed of thinking = number of words/visuals processed by the mind
> per minute ]
> [ Gaps between thinking =gaps between words/ sentences/ visuals ]
>
> SCIENTIFIC /INDUSTRIAL /FINANCIAL THINKING DESTROYS EMOTIONAL CIRCUITS.
>
> IN A FAST SOCIETY ALL SLOW /PAINFUL EMOTIONS ARE LABELLED AS DISEASE.
>
> A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY CANNOT FEEL PAIN / REMORSE / GRIEF.
>
> A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS BE CRUEL TO ANIMALS/ TREES/ AIR/
> WATER/ LAND  AND TO ITSELF.
>
> I am trying to get the following experiment conducted in a
> psychophysiology/ bio-chemistry laboratory.
>
> ( My background is given in the first letter ( letter No. 1 ) under the
> topic " Correspondence with neuroscientists " on the website  :
> www.netshooter.com/emotion  )
>
> There is a link between visual / verbal speed ( in perception, memory,
> imagery ) and the bio-chemical state of the brain and the body.
>
> Emotion can intensify / sustain only when visual and verbal processing
> associated with the emotion slows down ( stops / freezes ).
>
> EXPERIMENT:
>
> Subjects (preferably actors specializing in tragedy / tragic roles )
> will be asked to watch a silent video film showing any of the
> following:-
>
> (1) Human  suffering.
> (2) Animal  suffering.
> (3) Suffering  ( Destruction ) of Air / Water / Land / Trees.
>
> Subjects will be asked to intensify and sustain the subjective feeling
> of pain/ grief for the sufferer.
>
> The chemical changes associated with the emotion in the body(blood)
> would be measured by appropriate methods.
>
> The silent video film will be shown at different speeds :
> (1) 125% of actual speed.
> (2) Actual/real speed.
> (3) 75% of actual speed.
> (4) 50% of actual speed.
> (5) 25% of actual speed.
>
> Results :
>
> (1) Intensity of emotion increases with the decrease in  visual speed.
> (2) Intensity of emotion is maximum when visual speed is minimum (25%
> of actual speed)
>
> (3) The amount of chemical change associated with the emotion in the
> body(blood) will be found to increase with the decrease in visual speed.
>
> (4) The chemical change is maximum when visual speed is minimum.
> (5) The amount of chemical change will increase with the decrease in
> breathing rate. Breathing becomes so slow and non-rhythmic that it stops
> for some time at the inhalation/ exhalation stages.
>
> The above co-relations will be valid for all subjects -even for those
> who cannot feel pain/ grief. Such subjects will experience emotion
> associated with boredom/ discomfort/ restlessness/ irritability/
> uneasiness. The chemicals released will be different but the co-relation
> between visual speed and amount of chemical will be same( the breathing
> rates will be different/ fast).
> All subjects will experience some kind of emotion.
>
> In the 2nd stage of experiment we shall replace the silent video film
> with a Narrator ( Audio only ) and repeat the procedure thereby
> establishing the link between intensity of emotion and verbal speed.
>
> Please note:
> (1) A THINKING MIND CANNOT INTENSIFY / SUSTAIN ANY EMOTION.
> While this statement is generally true for all emotions, it is
> particularly true for all painful emotions.
>
> (2) In a society in which visual ( verbal ) speed and breathing- rates
> are fast , pain / remorse / grief cannot be experienced.  It is
> impossible.
>
> PROOF.
> Proof of the link between pain and slow visuals / words :-
>
> In the last century man has made thousands of movies / films on various
> themes / subjects. Whenever pain / tragedy is shown in any film the
> visuals ( scenes ) and words ( dialogues ) are always slowed down. In many
> films tragedy is shown in slow motion. At the most intense moment of pain
> the films almost become static / stationary.
>
> Tragedy-films provide direct proof / evidence of the link between pain and
> slowness.
>
> Painful/ higher-level emotions can intensify / sustain only when visual (
> and verbal ) speed slows down( stops/ freezes) and breathing/heart-rates
> slow down as well.
>
> CHANGE IN VISUAL SPEED OVER THE YEARS
>
> One thousand years ago visuals would change only when man physically moved
> himself to a new place or when other people ( animals / birds ) and
> objects ( clouds / water ) physically moved themselves before him.
>
> Today man sits in front of TV / Computer and watches the rapidly changing
> visuals / audio.
>
> He sits in a vehicle ( car / train / bus ) and as it moves he watches the
> rapidly changing visuals.
>
> He turns the pages of a book / newspaper / magazine and sees many visuals
> / text in a short span.
>
> The speed of visuals ( and words ) has increased so much during the last
> one hundred years that today the human brain has become incapable of
> focussing on slow visuals /words through perception, memory, imagery.
>
> If we cannot focus on slow visuals / words we cannot experience emotions
> associated with slow visuals /words.
>
> Before the advent of Industrial Revolution Man's thinking was primarily
> limited to :
>
> (a) visual processing ( slow visuals )
> (b) verbal / language processing ( slow words )
>
> Today there are many kinds of fast thinking :
>
> (1) visual processing ( fast visuals )
> (2) verbal / language processing ( fast words )
>
> If visual / verbal processing is fast we cannot feel slow emotions.
>
> (3) Scientific / Technical thinking ( fast )
> (4) Industrial thinking ( fast )
> (5) Business thinking ( fast )
>
> (3), (4) & (5) ARE ASSOCIATED WITH NUMBERS / SYMBOLS / EQUATIONS /
> GRAPHS /CIRCUITS / DIAGRAMS / MONEY / ACCOUNTING etc.
>
> As long as the mind is doing  this kind of thinking  it cannot feel any
> emotion - not an iota of emotion.
>
> In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
> In a thinking ( scientific / industrial ) society emotion itself becomes
> extinct.
>
> EMOTION IS WHAT REMAINS IN THE MIND WHEN VISUAL /VERBAL PROCESSING SLOWS
> DOWN (STOPS/FREEZES)
>
> There are certain categories of people who feel more emotion (subjective
> experience ) than others.
>
> If we attempt to understand why (and how ) they feel more emotion we can
> learn a lot about emotion.
>
> Writers, poets, actors, painters ( and other artists )
>
> WRITERS Writers do verbal ( and associated visual) processing whole day-
> every day. They do slow verbal ( and associated visual) processing every
> day. (A novel that we read in 2 hours might have taken 2 years to write.
> This is also the reason why the reader can never feel the intensity &
> duration of emotion experienced by the writer )
>
> POETS Poets do verbal ( and associated visual ) processing whole day-
> every day. There is more emotion in poetry than in prose. This happens
> because there are very few words ( and associated visuals ) in poetry than
> in any other kind of writing. There is a very high degree of freezing /
> slowing down of visuals & words in poetry.
>
> ACTORS Actors do verbal ( and associated visual ) processing whole day-
> every day. During shooting / rehearsal they repeat the dialogues ( words )
> again and again ( the associated visuals / scenes also get repeated along
> with the dialogues )
>
> PAINTERS Painters do visual ( and associated verbal ) processing whole
> day- every day. They do extremely slow visual processing - The visual on
> the canvas changes only when the painter adds to what already exists on
> the canvas.
>
> There are some important points to be noted :
>
> (1) All these people do visual & verbal processing - whole day - every
> day.
> (2) They do slow visual & verbal processing.
> (3) They do not do scientific / industrial / business processing whole
> day - every day.
>
> Most of the city people doing mental work either do this kind of mental
> processing which is associated with  Numbers / Symbols/ Equations /
> Graphs / Circuits / Diagrams / Money / Accounting etc. or they do fast
> visual ( verbal ) processing whole day - every day.
>
> This kind of thinking ( processing ) has come into existence only during
> the last 200 years and has destroyed our emotional ability ( circuits ).
>
> Please note : In today's modern world even artists have started using
> machines/ technology for their work and they are also involved with
> financial/business/commercial thinking. In addition to this they are
> also exposed to highly overstimulated environment like the rest of the
> population.
> Because of these factors even the mind of an artist of a fast society
> has become quite different from the mind of an artist who lived in any
> slow/non-industrial society of the past.  A modern artist is thinking
> more and feeling less than an artist of the past.
>
> Please note :
> Fast emotions =emotions associated with fast breathing/fast
> heart-rate(anger/pleasure/fear etc).
> Slow emotions=emotions associated with slow breathing/slow
> heart-rate(pain/remorse/grief etc).
> There are several kinds of slow breathing. What kind of subjective
> emotion we experience is determined  by the combination of
> breathing-rate and heart-rate.
>
> SELF-ASSESSMENT OF ( SUBJECTIVE ) INTENSITY OF EMOTION IS ALMOST ALWAYS
> WRONG.
>
> Suppose the maximum intensity(and duration) of a particular emotion that
> can be experienced by any human being is 100 units.
>
> Let us suppose the maximum intensity(and duration) of that particular
> emotion ever experienced by two people A & B in their entire life is : A -
> 100units B - 20 units
>
> Now suppose A & B are made subjects on a particular day and are asked to
> feel that particular emotion under experimental conditions ( or outside
> the laboratory ) and the intensity &duration they actually experience is :
>
> A - 90 units
> B -  18 units
>
> If A &B are then asked to indicate the intensity &duration of emotion on a
> scale of 0 -10 their response is likely to be ;
>
> A - 9
> B -  9
>
> Who is right and who is wrong ? A is right. B is wrong - B is wrong by a
> wide margin - B has experienced an intensity(and duration) of 18 units out
> of a maximum of 100 units and his correct / actual score should be 1.8
>
> Self-assessment ( self rating ) can be accurate only if people have the
> capacity to experience the highest intensity &duration ( units ) of the
> particular emotion under study.
>
> Because of physical work and slow visual/verbal processing in
> small(slow)agriculture based societies of the past, the mind used to
> experience a state of emotion all the time.  They used to experience a
> kind of high which urban people today experience after doing
> physical-exercise. There is an inverse corelation between physical-work
> and thinking. Mental activity automatically gets reduced during
> physical-work. If we read one thousand-year-old literature we will not
> come across the term "boredom" -the concept of boredom did not exist in
> slow societies. There were long gaps between different visuals and between
> words/ sentences -and people had the ability to experience/ tolerate the
> gaps -it was normal for them.
>
> Emotion can intensify / sustain only when visual / verbal processing slows
> down ( stops / freezes ). In an Industrial (thinking) society people
> experience very little emotion because of fast ( visual / verbal /
> scientific / industrial / business ) thinking
>
> Suppose the maximum intensity and duration of a particular emotion ( for
> most people ) in a fast society has reduced to 5 units ( from 100 units
> that people used to experience in earlier /slower societies ).
>
> If such people experience 4 units of emotion they will give themselves a
> rating /score of  8 on a scale of 0-10 whereas their actual score should
> be 0.4
>
> IN A FAST SOCIETY SLOW EMOTIONS BECOME EXTINCT.
>
> THE MORE WE THINK THE LESS WE FEEL.
>
>
>
>
> A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down
> as Depression / Anxiety.
>
> A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every
> physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.
>
> A society that entertains itself daily experiences every
> non-entertaining moment as Depression  / Anxiety.
>
> The number of words/sentences/ visuals(and other units of
> scientific/industrial/financial thinking) processed in a single day by a
> person living in today's urban world is thousands of times greater than
> the number of words/sentences/visuals processed in one day by a person who
> lived one thousand years ago.
>
> As a result of this there are hardly any gaps between thinking -between
> words/sentences/visuals.
>
> This is the reason why emotion has ceased to exist -It only exists for
> nanoseconds/ microseconds & milliseconds.
>
> Yours Sincerely,
>
> Sushil Yadav
> www.netshooter.com/emotion
>
>
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