Re: [microsound] What a press kit should contain

[Rhett or Anna <omserene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Elegant...but, still doesn't it feel good to get intellectual with music without
having to resort to listening to classical music. Besides the koan of self
referential music is a pleaseant mediation.

I would like to propose that glitch can live outside of structure through
inversion.  It is still reliant on semantic form but can still exist outsideof
it through the reversal of meaning.  I am not saying I think it can be
completely self referential.

And I still havn't dealt with the problem of process.





Nathan Snider wrote:

> > its very easy to label stuff as post-modern, but does it mean anything?
> > do really understand the term modernity? i respcet alot of the stuff that
> > people do in the clicks scene. AFAIK i am the ONLY dj who will play this
> > kinda music in his set.
> > but i feel the term post-modern has become a cheap way to claim a sort of
> > pseudo intelectual tone.
> > *u will have to excuse me english is not my mother tounge*
> > the fact that micromusic is intelctual does not mean that this is a post
> > modern music. i don`t see any connection between derida and SND.
> > you might say deconstuction -but this will only be on the very shallow
> > meaning.
> > TCB
>
> I might have overstated myself earlier.  Let me try again with a couple
> examples.
>
> Glitch is music that expresses awareness of the structure that it inhabits,
> playing with it, exposing the limits.  Glitch can only exist within a
> structure, since it "lives" by shaking that structure apart.  Perhaps it is
> only superficially deconstructionist, but I'd be hard pressed to find ANY
> example of music that is "deeply" deconstructionist in a Derridian sense.
>
> Generative music requires that the artist strike a balance between imposing
> and exposing structures, and the results are necessarily self-referential.
> This seems quite postmodern to me.  It does contain a strong hint of
> modernism, like a kind of deism where the artist is god, but ultimately,
> it's more like a reference to modernism than modernism per se.  If we're
> still talking Derrida, then in generative art, the artist designs a "center"
> for the structure, but in doing so, must acknowledge that the center is
> arbitrary.
>
> I think that it would be slightly disingenuous to stick to these schematic
> parallels between art and philosophy, though.  Artistic movements are a lot
> less monolithic than their philosophical couterparts, and they
> cross-pollinate like mad.  Postmodernism contains elements of both modernism
> and romanticism, each of which contained elements of previous movements,
> etc. etc...  The oppositions between art movements are present, but not to
> the degree that they are in philosophy.  The term "postmodernism" has become
> over-used, and as such, it's an easy target.  It's inevitable that we will
> move away from it artistically and philosophically, but I don't think that
> has happened yet.
>
> -nathan snider
>
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