Re: fileswapping is killing...

[jayrope <jayrope@xxxxxxx>]

:-) please excuse me again to have been that upfront

paul webb wrote:
> 
> it was being directed at anybody in particular and I
> don't think the messages posted were really inciting
> anything but I could see the possible direction it
> would take...
> 
> and I don't like the industry too and would like it
> too go,,
> 
> best
> paul
> 
> --- jayrope <jayrope@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > dear paul,
> >
> > i didn´t mention any other yet "illegal" activity
> > than the one of an
> > artist who has the full right into his own product
> > including
> > distributing his works freely, even on a so-called
> > legal basis.
> > besides that i disagree about your definition of
> > legality or illegality.
> > i do explicitly not think or agree with, that
> > companies entitled to take
> > care of artists copryights, are working for the best
> > of the artists:
> > they are working for the best of their bosses and a
> > few important
> > members. this should be illegal - if it is not by
> > now, then it should
> > be, still. i do not fear to conquer the laws as long
> > as they are made to
> > make rich people richer (excuse me to be THAT
> > simple).
> > the label i am on (geist records, london, uk) is
> > suffering from a
> > decline in record sales aswell as most other labels
> > at the moment. i
> > don´t think this is great,  but it is not avoidable
> > at all and just an
> > intermediate phase of a changing attitude towards
> > copyrights.
> > there´s no way of disrespecting humans lowest needs:
> > getting things for
> > free, since that is what is being promoted all over
> > the place while
> > trying to make them, all pay later. they SHALL NOT.
> > they shall come out
> > of their homes and attend artists concerts (i
> > personally favour this).
> > when the record industry, that mostly wants to make
> > money out of artists
> > (which is ok for me generally - a normal business
> > syndrome) starts
> > complaining, that it cannot keep up with current
> > developments in file
> > exchange policy of single end-"users" of music, than
> > this is simply
> > showing, that it has slept for too long while
> > introducing
> > copy-protection schemes (financed by the artists
> > mainly) that at last do
> > not even work.
> > charging the customer extra for his/her simple wish
> > to get relief should
> > be permitted.
> > i see artists worx a little bit like being a doctor
> > for the soul
> > oftenly.
> > and this should be delivered to whomever needs it
> > for tzh ebenfit of the
> > artist mainly, if not for free in general.
> > excuse me to be that emotional, but i personally
> > cannot stand these
> > discussions anymore and think, that they prooved to
> > be obsolete already
> > long ago.
> >
> > best,
> >
> > jayrope ? berlin
> >
> > paul webb wrote:
> > >
> > > maybe people should consider being carefull with
> > any
> > > "incitement of illegal activity" on forums when
> > their
> > > post are not particularly anonomous.
> > >
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