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RE: [microsound] Ars Electronica
Phillip and the rest of ya,
you can find the Ars E interview with Naut Humon here:
http://www.aec.at/unplugged/
and make your own interpretation.
Quoting myself [at the risk of sounding redundant]
-->(by contrast, Rhizome's Mark Tribe uses his interview on the Ars E site to
--> spotlight several young, lesser-known net.artists, while Pete Barr-Wilson
--> only
--> discusses the work of his own animation company, which all goes to show
--> that
--> everyone comes with their own set of priorities.)
i also know that Naut has been involved in experimental music for QUITE some
time. [insert here: memories of dropping acid during high school & listening to
scratchy Rhythm & Noise records found in the Lower Haight] i found it a bit
suprising that he would want to emphasize the mainstream crossover of
experimental sounds over a chance to give exposure to edgier stuff. maybe he's
got a rabbit up his sleeve yet, though, and he's just waiting for the right
moment to pull it out.
best,
derek
Quoting Philip Sherburne <psherburne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
--> Perhaps this isn't quite appropriate, because it's entirely
--> non-objective.
--> But knowing Naut, I also know that he has a broader enthusiasm for new
--> music
--> and new artists than just about anyone I know, and I've never known him
--> to
--> favor "names" just for the sake of expectations. I also think Naut
--> provides
--> a valuable service to "the scene" by helping to bring together different
--> generations of artists -- older, more established (yet still quite
--> unknown,
--> especially to my generation) artists along with the hot-headed up and
--> comers. I don't know where the Missy Elliott and Radiohead remarks come
--> from, but I would be surprised if he advanced them as the most
--> groundbreaking stuff out there.
-->
--> As for Ars, do you really think it's any more prejudiced toward "names"
--> and
--> trends than something like Lovebytes, or similar festivals? From what I
--> can
--> see they tend to share very similar lineups. I could be wrong, though.
-->
--> Cheers
--> Philip
-->
--> -----Original Message-----
--> From: Derek Holzer [mailto:derek@xxxxxx]
--> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:52 PM
--> To: microsound; Chris Parsons
--> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ars Electronica
-->
-->
--> Chris, et al,
-->
--> I guess sarcasm is the hardest thing to get accross in cyberspace. [without
-->
--> emoticons, that is :) ] my hyperbolic commentary was meant to arouse
--> suspicion...
-->
--> your points about Ars Electronica's corperate sponsership, high profile,
--> and
-->
--> potential detachedness are exactly what i was hoping to point out. i
--> think
--> it
--> is interesting to keep an eye on who those "on the top of the heap"
--> choose
--> to
--> pick from those further down. when naut humon starts to talk about
--> groundbreaking electronic music, then fishes up missy elliot and
--> radiohead,
--> i
--> start to wonder who hands out these awards, and what is really going on
--> anyway.
-->
--> (by contrast, Rhizome's Mark Tribe uses his interview on the Ars E site to
-->
--> spotlight several young, lesser-known net.artists, while Pete Barr-Wilson
--> only
--> discusses the work of his own animation company, which all goes to show
--> that
-->
--> everyone comes with their own set of priorities.)
-->
--> in the last couple of years, the "star artists" of the
--> electronic-experimental
--> music scene --people like ryoji ikeda and carsten nikolai-- have been
--> "honored"
--> by Ars Electronica, and this exposure seems to go hand in hand with what
--> people
--> expect to hear when you talk about these area of music in the widest
--> sense.
--> my
--> point, really, is who gets to pick the poster-children...
-->
--> of course, there are festivals (like Impakt, Earrational, DEAF, KRAAAK, and
-->
--> others) willing to dig a bit deeper and look past the names and
--> trend-spotting
--> to find quality artists of all different kinds of genres. thanks for
--> bringing
--> these up in response.
-->
--> best,
--> derek
-->
-->
--> Quoting Chris Parsons <cparse@xxxxxxxxxx>:
-->
--> -->
--> -->
--> -->
--> --> > Ars Electronica is also one of the places where the big-names of
--> the
--> --> Digital
--> --> > Music scene come to claim their crown. The "buzz" in the music
--> world
--> is
--> --> that
--> --> > time has run out for glitch and minimalism, and the "next big
--> thing"
--> is
--> --> surely
--> --> > on the horizon. One wonders how long process, content and concept
--> in
--> --> music
--> --> > creation can really hold out against the trend-driven market
--> machine
--> --> that
--> --> > sinks
--> --> > its roots into the underground at every turn, and --of course, and
--> with
--> --> > shallow, giddy breaths-- what that "next big thing" will be.
--> -->
--> --> > What does Ars Electronica, arch-bishop of the electro-avant-garde,
--> say
--> --> about
--> --> > this publically?
--> -->
--> --> Was this post a press release? It seems like a bit of a strech to
--> cast
--> --> Ars Electronica as the "Oscars night" of new electronic music.
--> -->
--> --> Ars Electronica is a very well-funded festival, with corporate
--> --> sponsorship
--> --> from the likes of Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard, Compaq, Siemens, etc.
--> --> That guarantees it is a large well-organized event, but it does not
--> --> guarantee that it is necessarily in tune with the latest + most
--> important
--> --> creative developments.
--> -->
--> --> There are numerous other similar festivals: Transmediale in Berlin,
--> --> DEAF in Rotterdam, Impakt in Utrecht, Lovebytes in Sheffield, etc.
--> --> You're probably more likely to hear/see really innovative work at any
--> of
--> --> these.
--> -->
--> --> Don't mean to imply anything negative about Ars Electronica,
--> --> of course it is a great festival. ...it's just, the phrase
--> "arch-bishop
--> --> of
--> --> the electro-avant-garde" seems a bit over the top to me.
--> -->
--> --> I suppose, money talks. And it's saying what people want to hear...
--> -->
--> --> Chris
--> -->
--> -->
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