Re: [microsound] OT electro woman sensuality

["aya::karpinska" <awake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

does it really make sense to make categorical statements about all men or
all women?
we are part of a fascinatic community on the cutting edge of musical
creation. working in the very new electronic medium, we are surrounded by
very new ideas about listening, aesthetics, social relationships,
communication... my (admittedly idealistic) hope is that the ideas we have
about what constitues a male of a female can be as progressive as our
musical ideas.

it seems that the two previous posts have to do with relationships between
men/women, not women in general or men in general.

the notion of "togetherness" in this post is certainly valid:
> > > but playing any music together (especially improvisational)
> > >  requires quite a degree of "togetherness", which , when it is with
> > someone
> > > from opposite sex I suppose can become sexually/romantically flavor
> ed :)
however i feel that it implies that the sexual/romantic flavor is a given
when working with women, indeed it implies that an interaction with women is
limited to sexual/romantic flavor.

this assumption is not well-founded:
> there any woman on this list? I know there's Sawako... any other? I
> often have the sensation that we are all male geeks talking about
> softwares and stuff and that the girls are into microsund only because
> of their boyfriends/husbands...
why do we need to care how a woman became interested in microsound? is her
participation in the movement less valid because she was introduced by her
nerd boyfriend?

of course we live in societies where gender stereotypes are deeply ingrained
and, to an extent, vital to the culture. but given the opportunity to create
an online community, must we perpetuate these stereotypes?

aya.


----- Original Message -----
From: "e.g.ø" <glere@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: [microsound] OT electro woman sensuality


> In my experience I've never found good women able to play a good
> improvvisation with me or in general... instead the best improvvised
> songs I made was with friends of mine who were male... I think that
> men have a more primal approach to music... but I think that all this
> discussion is completely meaningless and out of topic! :)
>
> anyway... since I'm Italian I'll ask this more important question: is
> there any woman on this list? I know there's Sawako... any other? I
> often have the sensation that we are all male geeks talking about
> softwares and stuff and that the girls are into microsund only because
> of their boyfriends/husbands...
>
> ciao
> e.g.ø
>
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> >
> > >
> > > I never tried playing electronic music with a woman :(
> > > but playing any music together (especially improvisational)
> > >  requires quite a degree of "togetherness", which , when it is with
> > someone
> > > from opposite sex I suppose can become sexually/romantically flavor
> ed :)
> > > and women's approach to music is indeed somehow more primal -
>  my wife
> > always
> > > helps me see the emotional flaws in my compositions, which I seem t
> o
> > > overlook.
> > >
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