Re: [microsound] eno

[The pHarmanaut <pharmanaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I wonder how much it matters whether there is a conscious exchange or
influence happening, in either direction, for meaningful comparisons to be
made here? Of course, knowledge of those kinds of influences can be very
informative and simply enjoyable to know about--such as Kim's discussion of
the influence of Tangerine Dream on some of his early work in ... what was
it, Kim, C-Sound?

Anyway, I think I'm more interested in how listeners/DJs/mixers/performers
combine different influences. Whenever I was doing Subharmonic webcasts for
Radiovalve (http://www.radiovalve.com; do a DJ search for pharmanaut), I
continually mixed together the sorts of artists from both of the genres you
mention (though my microsound collection has seen its most dramatic growth
since I quit doing those shows). I'm still interested in that kind of
mixture, though, which I'll be working with more as my dis/lecture series of
webcasts picks up over the summer (http://www.du.edu/~treddell/). I really
like mixing up, for instance, Robert Rich's richly toned sequenced stuff
with the kind of click-pop and guitar-loop work of Claudia Bonnarelli, or
Bitches Brew-era Miles Davis with Pole.

The point is, examining and exploring an exchange of sounds in that manner
strikes me as more engaging and more worthwhile (speaking as someone who
performs his own music and DJs as a way to test out different combinations
of sounds that might provide models for my own work) than establishing
historical influences and such. To me, these sorts of mixes create what I
like to think of as alternate histories, fantastic jam sessions in which
Pole performed with Miles and Herbie et al, or where Claudia threw down some
loops during one of Rich's dream concerts.

Anyway, I thought it was Cage who invented microsound without knowing it ...
or wait, do I mean Xenakis ... oh no, I mean Rune Lindblad ... oh, oh, no,
wait, William S. Burroughs, yeah definitely Burroughs.

Cheers,
-=Trace

----- Original Message -----
From: "Boban Ristevski" <sir_blacktooth@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: [microsound] eno


> just a thought - brian eno album 'thursday afternoon'
> is released 1985, and has very common elements with
> today 'microsound' albums. maybe eno invented
> microsound without even knowing about it. i wonder do
> this ambient/environmental artists like eno, steve
> roach, robert rich, vidna obmana know about labels
> like mille plateaux, raster-noton, 12k...
> also the question may be - do the artists who release
> their music on this labels know about steve roach,
> robert rich and other similar artists.
>
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