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Re: [microsound] microsound as pop music




most pop music is made to be immediately appealing. sometimes this is the only property.


just as much music from the academic world seem to be primarily written to be analyzed.

both are boring musically, but at least you can dance to the pop music ;-)

i have been brought up in the electroacoustic world but it was too limiting and i started looking into microsound and such. but microsound seem to be an even smaller (;-)) world in more than one way.

but now i at least have found out where i want to go (and not want to go) with my own music.



which probably will satisfy you more. microsound is still young and much of the unreleased stuff (available as MP3:s)


At 04.03 +0200 02-07-17, Andrei wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, The pHarmanaut wrote:

 > I definitely didn't mean that microsound is pop as in Top 40, but it
 > certainly has more connections to "pop" music than say the music of
 > Xenakis or Stockhausen. I think it's fair to say that a lot of the artists
 > within the "microsound" scene have connections to the pop music world.
 > More direct connections than Xenakis or Stocky every had.

 This isn't accurate in regards to Stockhausen. Stockhausen had a very direct
 connection to a number of "pop music" artists in the high point of SF
 psychedelic culture. Stockhausen cited live performances by Jefferson
 Airplane and their little collage snippet, "A Small Package of Value Will
 Come To You, Shortly" from 1967's AFTER BATHING AT BAXTER'S as an influence
 on "Hymnen". Plus, he taught members of the Airplane, the Dead, and the
 Mothers of Invention in his classes at the University of California at
 Davis, in 1967. Certainly, a lot of Stockhausen's writing on the Aquarian
 Age and such is vintage psychedelic mysticism, as well.

Yeah, I was aware of these sort of social connections that Stockhausen had, but I think they're kind of inconsequential, especially regarding his music. Sure he went to a Jefferson Airplane concert, but so what ? Did he start composing pieces with more "commercial appeal" as a result of it ? I don't think so.

What I meant by direct connections is that a lot of microsound artists
used to be regular techno, house or ambient producers or rock musicians
before becoming serious glitch artists :-).

Btw, DJ Spooky was in charge of the electronics on a recording of a
Xenakis piece a few years ago. Was that of any consequence ?

 Wasn't "Hymen" all about popular music, in that a country's national anthem
 is about as popular/populist/pop as music can get?

How many copies of "Hymen" do you think sold ? That's how popular an idea it was.

 The point, though, is this: what's the USEFULNESS of keeping Xenakis,
 Stockhausen, Lansky, etc. shielded from popular culture? Are they so badly
 in need of being kept clean?

I don't think people are interested in keeping them shielded from popular culture. I don't think popular culture is interested in what they have to give, for whatever reasons. And I don't think Xenakis and Stockhausen are(/were) concerned with popular culture. They're not the kind of artists who will compromise their visions in order to have appeal to the least common denominator.

Andrei

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