RE: [microsound] microsound as pop music

[Philip Sherburne <psherburne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Beni,
Good point. Looks like I did take the idea of communication more narrowly
than you intended, and I see what you mean. 

And also very true about the deep vs. wide phenomenon of "cultural
penetration."

Please don't apologize - I'm sorry only that I don't speak
Brasilian/Portuguese! I hate the fact that English so often becomes the
lingua franca in communities like ours. Desafortunadamente, no hablo
brasileño -- solamente castellano...

Saludos,
Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Beni Borja [mailto:beni.borja@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:16 PM
To: microsound
Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound as pop music



I guess you took the idea of "communication" a bit narrowly. Communication,
at least in the manner that I intended,  does not equate in any way to
narrative. Communicating to me would be the transmission to other person, of
an idea, a feeling or a mood , and  it's in this sense that art is
communication.

I agree that not everyone  have the language skills to understand Joyce,
Coltrane or Cage. On the other hand,  these guys are household names ,
although they're never widely read or heard , because their works caused a
deep impression in those able to enjoy them. You can communicate in a
tottaly shallow maner to millions like Britney or deeply to a few like Sun
Ra.

I guess this whole discussion is a bit out of detpth for my foreigner
english, so sorry for the poor communication skills.

saudações,

Beni

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Sherburne" <psherburne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'microsound'" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: [microsound] microsound as pop music


>
>
> >Art was meant to comunicate something, wasn't it??  Not communicating is
> >failure , not reason to be proud.
>
> Yes, but to "communicate" something, you need someone prepared to receive
or
> interpret it. Joyce's "Ulysses," for instance, may be communicating
> something, but only to those open to it. Ditto L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E poetry,
which
> to most readers would come across as gibberish.
>
> I would challenge that art has to communicate something at all, in fact.
Not
> all artworks have such a narrative purpose -- I would doubt that Kim's
work,
> for instance, sets out to "communicate" in any direct fashion. It may do
so
> more indirectly, however, by staking a particular aesthetic position
within
> a broader cultural continuum.
>
> Cheers
> Philip
>
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