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i don't know, the beatles just sound so ever-present & hegemonic to 
me...  it's a little like an orange you can't squeeze anymore juice out 
of.  i don't even know the beach boys (which i understand is the group 
mainly sampled on _endless summer_, which i haven't heard) so that would 
probably sound alien to me.  ekkehard & stephan have done plenty of tracks 
which use very recognisable samples, & this has never bothered me--i 
actually enjoy these tracks a lot.  we won't get started with v/vm, for 
example, who 'steal' entire songs & put them in a different (in their case, 
heavily distorted) context to excellent effect.  i have absolutely nothing 
against extensive sampling per se, & especially not from a political 
standpoint.  i think i just have something against the beatles as musical 
content.  aren't they in everything already anyway?  all of popular western 
music seems to have a connection with them.

>a shame i haven;t heard EE plays tho ... this god forsaken ukraine...

i'm just a sucker for ekkehard ehlers ever since i 'got' _betrieb_...  i 
even forgive him for his auch CD...

which brings me to richard chartier's original comment about not wishing to 
be next on edition kunst's list...  i don't think that would happen though 
richard, as you are not a 'one-trick' musician.  in fact, none of the 
musicians listed really are, but the one trick that they have nailed down 
for their satirical project is quite on the mark.  if anything, the 
critique seems to be aimed at music that is 'all idea, little 
content'.  the observation is that any other artist who would follow those 
paths would find themselves saying the exact same thing as their 
predecessors.  though i wouldn't be so ready to include music that includes 
some form of sampling (ehlers, scanner (not that i like his music!)) in 
that category--sampling brings in a musical content in itself, & the form 
determines only the way this content will be heard.  this makes the form 
transmittable to future generations of musicians (although that is not in 
itself a guarantee of originality, far from it, call it a sine qua non 
though.)  the brinkmann/ikeda-type forms, though, are immutable in content 
(i.e. the content is entirely created by the form) & thus set in stone 
forever.  just a few morning thoughts.

have a nice day
~ david