Re: [microsound] memory and melody

[jan larsson <jlarsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

rythm and melody connect with some deep stuff inside.

but we dont have to disable this to produce or listen to EAM or=20
microsound.  but we have to give up the competition (or the worrying),=20=

trying to prove that melody is wrong and microsound is right.

we've had EAM since the 50s and there are only a very few=20
memorable/good pieces around. most stuff produced is just plain=20
bullshit.

EAM/microsound are both very young and must evolve to survive. this=20
will require a lot of very hard work.

l=F6rdagen den 16 november 2002 kl 01.41 skrev vadim sprikut:

>
> hi all.
>
> i was thinking about music and memory. more specifically, why its=20
> easier for most of us to remember melody rather than other elements=20
> like timbre, tone, rhythm (although this one is debatable), etc.
>
> the first thing that comes to mind of course is how we encode=20
> information. for instance, the average number of things (numbers,=20
> words, etc) one can memorize in one string is about seven. anything=20
> more than that, and we're in trouble. my musical language is pretty=20
> weak, but i suspect its something to do with the arrangement of a=20
> melodic part. thats why most of the 'memorable' music has been pop or=20=

> classically oriented.
>
> but it seems like there should be more to it than that though. not=20
> just how the melody is arranged but the characteristics of the melody=20=

> as well. that brings another question to mind: are we predisposed to=20=

> process melody over those other elements? kind of like being born with=20=

> the capacity for language that is eventually nurtured into complex=20
> speech through interactions with parents (and exposure to language in=20=

> general). or is this a totally learned mechanism? for instance, if you=20=

> were able to raise a child with no exposure to melody but instead=20
> played it abstract compositions (such as some of the music we discuss=20=

> here), would it be able to remember elements of abstraction better=20
> than melody?
>
> take a piece of music like vladislav delay's "anima" for instance.=20
> beautiful work, but i have a hard time retaining it's specific=20
> structures in my head. i can remember certain sounds, tones, etc but i=20=

> wouldnt be able to reproduce it for anyone unless i actually played=20
> it. however, take his luomo project, and its a different story. i can=20=

> hum certain parts because ive managed to retain certain melodic=20
> elements.
>
> maybe someone into psychoacoustics can shed some light on this.
>
> v'
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