Uploaded my contribution to Stone & Ripple, which can be found in the "vatic drop box." (lifting01.mp3) The title, "Lifting Cars Is Faster" was spoken to me by a voice coming from one of the Wigette samples I created. Sounds are unprocessed Wigette. Stereo, um, positioning done with Wigette also... Best, vatic http://www.propheticdesire.com ------------------------------