Re: [microsound] micropolitics

["::\)" <r3dshift@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

that IS kinda funny, I bet echelon catches all kinds of microsound MP3s in
which it finds mathematical sequences and probably flags them for followup
:P

I'd also be interested in christo wrapping the white house.  christo rules!

-Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Björn Eriksson" <nowerik@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] micropolitics

> Have any artists made anything creative with the Echelon system? This I
> think could be a very interesting approach. I might have missed alot on
> this, but I think there has not been so much creative art concerning this
> worlds largest ears.
>
> http://www.echelonwatch.org/
>
> and another one
> Some weeks ago there was some messages floating around that Christo had
got
> permission to wrap the white house in plastic, but i could not get no more
> info on that...
>
> yours,
> björn eriksson / sweden
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Costelloe" <rcostelloe@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [microsound] micropolitics
>
>
> All things Muslimgauze!! I think he exemplifies political music. He
> certainly could have been more communicative about his motives though,
> generally it takes some digging. I'm not aware of any good literature
> or theory at this point though.
>
> I tend to agree that separating art from politics both on this list and in
> general is
> a step towards redundancy. Aesthetics for the sake of aesthetics is grand,
> but often just occurs to me generally as masturbation. It's a personal
thing
> too.
> I've been fairly active in both local artist and activist groups for a
> while,
> and am constantly pissed that I never run into the same people at both.
>
> The artists are ignoring what is going on in the world, and the activists
> are ignoring the art.. Though it strikes me that we're all in the same,
> marganilized
> boat. I cannot begin to imagine the amount of energy that would be
> created if all the amazingly talented artists became socially aware and
> active.
> And likewise, if all the hardcore activists I know would stop listening to
> the same cliché peace-pop and give support to the artists around them.
>
> (Read in the paper today that the Dixie Chics (I guess fairly popular
group)
> are being black-listed in the US radio community (i.e. ClearChannel)
because
> one of them said something bad about Bush...
> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=dixie
> Is this an acceptable collusion of art & politics???)
>
> Just went to a war protest in Denver on Saturday. They played Lennon's
> "Imagine"
> three times... I was ready to kill someone. I think political activism
> desparately needs to dragged from the '70's to the current age, both in
> theory
> and practice. Embracing technology (hactivism?) and contemporary aesthetic
> theory into this
> 'movement' is an exciting possiblity. - R
>
>
>
> >microsounders,
>
> >since this list was set up to discuss all things philosophical, aesthetic
> >and digital/post-digital/microsound (or whatever sounds good today) I
don't
> >think there is any need to separate politics and the creation of music on
> >this list...if you want something less philosophically rigorous and more
> >about cool new software and gear then I suggest you try another list...
> >
> >but if you are interested in music and politics I can suggest reading
> >"Noise" by Jacques Attali or 'Society of the Spectacle' by Guy Debord
> <http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/debord/index.htm> to get a bearing on how
> >politics and music intersect...
> >
> >any other recommendations for list members?
>
> >KIM
>
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