RE: [microsound] Re: OT[microsound ] war

["Edward George" <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

There is a vast, vast, vast, vast difference between competition and war
Competition provides the benefits(?) you discussed.

Scientifically:
Competition arises around finite resources and is responsible for such
phenomena as evolution, networked system and power laws.

War is the result when the vast interconnected networks (social,
political, financial etc) present crumble under stress, reaching a
tipping point

Similarly, earthquakes are the phenomena arising from crossing the
tipping point in the accumulating rivers of stress in the earths crust -
earthquakes follow a power law too btw.

Competition is good, wars can be very bad and unnecessary, the only
benefit can be vast upheaval in belief and society, this can also be
negative and not a benefit.

The upheavals in scientific + social belief follow a power law
distribution similar to earthquakes and wars.

Wars aren't necessary, competition is essential and unavoidable with
finite resources.
The two shouldn't be confused.

-----Original Message-----
From: spw [mailto:stevepwats@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 26 March 2003 12:16
To: microsound
Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: OT[microsound ] war

War is a natural part of human evolution, the two benefits war serves
are:

#1. population control

#2. technological advancements, the atom bomb to end World War II would
be a
good 
example.

Humans are not the only animal's that fight in war, you can look at
other
animal species like
packs of wolves fighting over territory, sharks, dolphins, and also our
closest genetic link the
ape.
So in a way War is a case of survival of the fittest and natural part of
evolution.
I don't condone violence unless it's in self defense but I see this as
human
modernization and 
globalization and nature taking it's course.

on 3/26/03 2:24 AM, nicola catalano at catsed@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

>>>> Iraqi TV just broke the rules of the Geneva convention, they lined
up dead
>>>> American soldiers
>>>> and posed all their faces for TV, now that's desperate and savage.
>>>> 
> 
> while that's absolutely true, on the other hand it's maybe "useful"
people
> worldwide are seeing what war actually means on both sides. death,
guts and
> blood, suffering, fear, lost lifes, destruction and so on. it's not a
risiko
> game, boys, nor a "surgical" war. war (and this one, in particular) is
the
> lowest point in mankind history.
> peace :: nicola

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