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RE: [microsound] war
Ah, I can agree with this sentiment. I'm always displeased at TV
protestants who shoot their mouth off and show ignorance. It's quite
fun to watch these programs with folks walking around with huge jewelry
and bad hair-dos talking about how Christ was rich, so you can be too!
Good stuff, in a pro-wrestling sort of way. Unfortunately, it has very
little to do with Christ's teachings in any sort of way. They are,
indeed, bad Christians.
But spw's comments have be a little bothered. Science is the new
religion? If this is the case, why are people beginning to come back to
Churches? This preaching of religion being dead has been going on since
Spinoza, and there have been periods where the Church looked definitely
out of it. It, at least from a Roman Catholic point of view, does not
have nearly the power it had during the Renaissance's beginning (the RC
Church has itself to blame for their own ineptitude and greediness
during these years), not to mention terrible conversion tactics
(unfortunately, my Orthodox Church fell in error on this as well, even
though they treated the American natives much, much better than the
Spaniards and English ever did).
No, religion is not some foolish thing that keeps popping up like a
vampire that the great hero science can't seem to kill. It's still a
part of a lot of people's lives, even if sometimes they act like it's
not. Saying "God doesn't exist" won't make God go away.
Enough rambling from me. Back to the pitch battles.
Regards,
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Rudy Carrera
Fal=E7ata-Galia Recordings
Tariff Records
PO Box 134
Rialto, California 92377 USA
http://www.falcata-galia.com
http://www.tariffrecords.com
http://members.tripod.com/musicsource7/index.htm
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-----Original Message-----
From: dbuchwald [mailto:dagmar.buchwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 8:49 AM
To: microsound
Subject: Re: [microsound] war
Yes, you are right. American religious fundamentalists who declare a
"war of good against evil" and base that war on an 'ancient' book such
as the bible are most dangerous people. They are not only bad
Christians ignoring the ten commandments of their own religion, but at
core they are manicheans, misguided and corrupt ones.
By the way, get a grip on historical dates -- the great prophet (if you
mean Muhammed with that epithet) certainly did not defeat Neanderthal
man.
Dagmar
spw wrote:
>=20
> If I can just chime in, the state of the current political climate in
the
> world basically comes
> down to new vrs. old weather you are talking about government or
culture.
> Think how silly all the killing and war based on religion is.
> It's based in myth and and man's lack of understanding of the
sciences.
> I must bow down and worship a sacred rock three times a day because of
this
> so called
> prophet that generation before me have talked about.
> And just over 200 years ago electricity and an airplane would have
been
> considered a 'miracle'
> or 'magic'.
> But were not supposed to question the legitanmcy of miracles that
happened
> 2000 years ago.
> The aztec sacrificed 10,000 humans in one year to please the 'Gods'
that
> supposedly controlled
> the weather like the Egyptian Gods.
> We all can laugh now because the sun isn't a 'God' it's a hot balls of
gas,
> all those sacrifices
> was stupid and unnecessary.
> When these idiot suicide bombers blow themselves up it's out of sheer
> ancient teaching
> stupidity.
> I will always say the some of the most dangerous people in this world
are
> the radical religious
> fundamentalist types who fail to comprehend logic who are out to
fulfill
> their ancient
> apocalyptice prophecies.
> America must be the great evil because they are not stuck in the stone
ages
> it says so in the
> great book of prophet worship bull shit.
> Americans are evil because they don't throw rocks and sticks at each
other
> like when the great prophet defeated the Neanderthal man 30,000 years
ago.
>=20
> on 4/4/03 8:48 PM, Falcata-Galia and Tariff Records at
fgrecs@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
>=20
> > Tim;
> >
> >> Rudy (we must get together for a cup of tea)
> >
> > I'm down for that.
> >
> >> I did see the story, it was not about that, it was about the stupid
> >> reporter making a better photo IMO - but I am glad he was fired.
Both
> >> photos were on Drudge which I read daily and
> >> the media is far from liberal unless
> >> you are a right to lifer or pro gun (which I am, in the 2nd
amendment
> >> sense)
> >
> > I can't agree with that at all. If you are of the dominant religion
> > (being Orthodox, I am and I'm not - everyone asks why I don't have a
> > yarmulke when I say I'm Eastern Orthodox!), gay/lesbian issues, a
host
> > of others. The media pimp for the right, but have stories written
by
> > the left.
> >
> > And myself, I'm pro-gun. An unarmed populace is a dead populace.
Those
> > who doubt me, such as my European colleagues and American liberals,
> > forget what it's like to deal with invasions. Not exactly pleasant
> > stuff.
> >
> >> Define your terms
> >
> > See above, my friend.
> >
> >> But first read the book by Goldberg, the one by Coulter (yech) and
the
> > one
> >> by Alterman
> >
> > Coulter. I know liberals hate her, but she's a cute bird (yeah
yeah,
> > sexist, etc. me...).
> >
> >> Rudy, also try reading a little Goebbels and a little Bernays! Who
> > conducts
> >> the polls? Who owns those companies? I know these people, my
girlfriend
> > has
> >> hired them - you can get anything you want from a poll. One more
thing:
> > in
> >> a true sense the labor party might be considered left. The liberals
in
> > this
> >> country?
> >
> > That's the bosses who are always down for the status quo. Has been
that
> > way since time immemorial. But the foot soldiers cling to the left
like
> > Linus to the blanket.
> >
> >> Well there was a saying in the 60s. The Republicans didn't want
n*ggers
> > in
> >> the neighborhood, and the liberals didn't want negroes in the
> > neighborhood.
> >> The left was destroyed by union busting goon squads and
McCarthyism.
> > W's
> >> hereos no doubt.
> >
> > And it was the republicans who seemed to do more for the blacks than
our
> > Dixie-crats ever did.
> >
> >> You should have been around in the 80s and watched the turn from
> >> "liberal"...
> >
> > I was. Didn't care for it then, either.
> >
> > Best to you,
> >
> > Rudy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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