Re: [microsound] noise

["jan.larsson" <jan.l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"I like naive art, lets lobotomize some 5-year olds"

I dont know where you got the impression that only children are curious etc.
I'm pretty sure (dont remember where I read it right now) that different
research groups have found that older people learn as easily as younger.
There is a difference in that younger use a bit more brute force exploration
and older tend to rely slightly more on experience to rule out stuff that
are wrong earlier.

But we can fix this for you. Like being your own DIY mad scientist and
victim at the same time. If you lock yourself in a room without windows, no
media, no-one to talk to for <x> years you'll have no experience to rely on
when you are old and should react just as a child. Try it!!

Den 03-04-20 11.59, skrev "macrosound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<macrosound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> I went back and reread the parts of the article that didn't make too much
> sense to me at first.  From the article:
> 
> 'Additional tests on the maturing noise-reared rats showed that their
> auditory regions continued to be plastic -- they continued to reorganize
> their neural circuitry in response to exposure to sound stimuli alone,
> long after the brains of normal rats had ceased rewiring. This suggested
> that a "critical period" for exposure-based plasticity in the brain had
> been extended.'
> 
> Perhaps I am way off, but this sounds like forcible neoteny through
> exposure to noise.  Not that every sustained developmental characteristic
> is neccesarily positive. For instance, continuing to grow in size
> throughout one's life causes terrible health problems (not to mention
> social difficulties).  But consider other, less concrete developmental
> characteristics: curiosity, tactile exploration.  There are things that we
> seem to lose when we leave childhood that could be very beneficial to the
> health of our species, or at least interesting to the individual.  It's
> impossible for me to say how extension of that "plasticity" of the brain
> would be experienced subjectively but I'd sure like to try it.
> 
> Do I sound like a mad scientist yet?
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> jan.larsson wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Actually you are saying that the researchers are right. That children
>> needs
>> a varying and interesting acoustic environment if they are to develop into
>> varying and interesting adults.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Den 03-04-20 08.52, skrev "macrosound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>> <macrosound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> 
>>> "we do know that exposing infant rats to specific sound stimuli can
>>> induce
>>> long-standing representational changes in the brain."
>>> 
>>> Doesn't sound so bad to me.  There was a period of my aural
>>> experimentations where I only listened to white noise.  I made several
>>> tracks of about 3-4 min in length of steady white noise with the
>>> occasional mild filtering.  It profoundly affected my perception of
>>> sound.
>>> My ears became receptive to dimensions of sound that had previously gone
>>> unnoticed.  Dare I call them microsound dimensions.  Subtlety became
>>> more
>>> important to me.
>>> 
>>> Interesting article.  I still wonder: "Why rats?"
>>> 
>>> --elisha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kim Cascone wrote:
>>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/04/030418081607.htm
>>>> 
>> 
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