Re: [microsound] [OT] hiphop article

[graham miller <grahammiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

word.

Dominic Lanzone wrote:

> oh ok. cool. yeah, i'm enjoying the different spins as well =)
>
>  for those who don't already know, Mos Def ( http://www.rawkus.com/ ),
> Blackalisicous ( http://www.quannum.com/home.html ),
>  and the Roots ( http://www.okayplayer.com/theroots/ ) are examples of
> artists currently trying to say something outside the thug/pimp dialogue.
> they are also all selling some records, although not of course as many as
> Fitty. oh, and check out the other folks on their labels.
> plus, i'd like to address the person who said that there was no political
> change (or not enough political change?) in the themes chosen by hip hop
> artists by saying that  the way that political ideology is dealt with in
> African Diaspora cultures is sometimes coming out of very different
> traditions (specifically in this case black church music, islam and
> rastafari, Franz Fannon, MLK, ect.) than those of white intellectuals.
> holding a white intellectual yardsick up to black ideologies is sort of
> like trying to speak to a Yanamamo indian in Esperanto and getting upset
> that she doesn't understand you. there is also a situation where african
> diasporic thinkers (and other post-colonial peoples) have to learn and be
> able to work with not only their own systems of thought, but also those of
> the white intellectuals. mostly white intellectuals do not have to do this
> in return. in recent years some white and brown folks have been working to
> correct this imbalance, or at least be more aware of it, which is a good
> thing i think.
> ok, that was my slightly obnoxious (sorry) and long winded way of saying
> that if you don't listen to hip hop enough to really learn the language(es)
> of it, then you are missing ALOT of what is being said. like picking up a
> book on thermodynamics and assuming that since it is written in english you
> will be able to understand it in one quick read with no previous
> background.
> simple examples are the critiques of pimp ideology coming out of the RnB
> world (and some of the hip hop world too, check out Pussy Galore by the
> Roots), mostly by the ladies who are tired of dating misogynistic men. it's
> easy to hear this and think "oh just another sappy love song" and totally
> miss the fact that it is a woman making a cultural critique of male
> behavior in her community.
> eh blahblahblah..........
> ok carry on.
> dominic
>
> > What I was going for here was asking the group. Someone else may have a =
> > different spin on finding articles and such. So no I was not addressing =
> > you but the group.=20
> >
> > Enjoying the different spin,
> > PoM:A
> >
>
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