ul'd a track by mistake to tim_kugel drop box called "prelim_klank_kug.mp3 (that is 160 kbps) the right one is called klank_k.mp3 - and is at 128 kbps there is a klank.txt file as well very sorry for the inconvenience -- I didn't realize I had done it wrong until it was up and I tested it. if it can be removed, I could not figure how. I hope the rest was done correctly. tim ------------------------------