oi, Ages ago I promised words on Sonar. Here's the start: http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/153 tV tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ------------- tobias@xxxxxxxxxxx ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot ------------------------------