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Re: [microsound] haunted weather
On Saturday, April 24, 2004, at 12:04 AM, M. A. Doherty /
concresc_e_nce wrote:
Regarding Cage, and the consideration brought forth by him...
I do NOT think that the question raised by his music has been answered.
When speaking of such things as art, you can not ever end an inquiry,
really.
again I would ask what aspects you think need further enquiry? There
hasn't been a specific response to this yet.
The very fact that we are now raising the questions that he did is a
good
mark that those considerations are still valid.
and what are those questions?
I would like to point out that music, in general, has not had time to
absorb
considerations of silence as Cage proposed,
I see the opposite, ie that the territory has been so thoroughly mined
as to pose a bit of a dead end (see recent comments re taku sugimoto -
Feb 21), or at least to present a situation where the same ideas are
commonly being rehashed with little sense of anything beyond imitation.
Given this, i think it could be argued that perhaps _too much_ time has
elapsed since these ideas were put forward such that people now think
they might be new. I think music history demonstrates a pretty rapid
'absorption' of these ideas. I am interested in how you think that the
ideas are not yet 'absorbed' due to insufficient time? After all, Cage,
Shaeffer, Henri et al. have been in the official musical canon for a
good 50 years and has been taught to just about every young composer
since....
ANY MUSICAL INQUIRY IS VALID.
As is the freedom to critique (in lower case) the underlying premise of
that enquiry. Shouting gets you nowhere.
Indeed, i am very keen to start this particular enquiry with some
specifics. If the questions have not been answered, as you strongly
suggest, then it should be quite simple to put forward a case for that
to allow some further discussion.
regards
julian
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