Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise

[Steve Polta <stevepolta@xxxxxxxxx>]

Two "metal" artists who have definitely crossed into
the "experimental" (whatever that means) world, and at
times exist at these boudaries are James Plotkin and
Mick (MJ) Harris.

Harris was for a while associted with extreme metal
outfit Napalm Death (cited in one interview as a fave
of F. Lopez). His Scorn project brought this dark
intensity to a techno/dub sorta thang and the Lull
moniker is purely intense throbbing drone.
Collaborations with Bill Laswell and james Plotkin
have also brought him into slowed down ambient
territory. (Napalm Death is rumored to have released
an LP with--so it is claimed--over one hundred songs
on it as well as a 7" with over 1000! How's that for
micro-metal??)

Plotkin was a main force in the oddball ('scuse me
"experimental") metal outfit OLD--which itself
incorporated strange techno/industrial
elements--continues to play in Khanate (a "metal"
group known for time-stoppingly slow high-volume
dirges and super low, room-rumbling
frequencies--perhaps another Lopez connection??) and
other aggressive noisy projects but has also produced
very nice subtle guitar drone things (some in
collaboration with KK Null, "known" for his involveent
with the grungy Zeni Geva (see their collab CD
AURORA).

The various comps, "Throne of Drones," "Swarm of
Drones" (don't know the labels) include tracks by
these guys and document others of similar veins well.

Don't know if it's technnically "microsound" and I'm
hardly an authority on either's vast outputs but,
well... there you go.

--- John Nowak <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> On Oct 4, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Gregory Elliott wrote:
> 
> > Well, there is the overlap between microsound and
> speed metal where 
> > Francisco Lopez used recordings of his friend's
> speed metal band 
> > rehearsing as source material (apparantly
> Francisco Lopez at least 
> > really likes speed and death metal, and I myself
> have to admit a 
> > certain nostalgia for it at times). Not that that
> makes for a genre 
> > overlap, but it's interesting anyway.
> 
> Indeed, I've used samples of Slayer in my works.
> I've also used samples 
> of Britney Spears and MC Hammer though...
> 
> > As far as the american idea of noise, the way I
> understand it from 
> > hearing about it from others, is that there is a
> distinction between 
> > noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac,
> etc.) and 'powernoise', 
> > which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy
> beat based 
> > industrial stuff
> 
> There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider
> powernoise, mostly 
> from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as
> powernoise is too much 
> nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for
> my tastes, so I 
> can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen
> stuff hard techno or 
> something like that... after all, it really is just
> noisy, crap techno 
> (redundant, I know).
> 
> I love Cock ESP.
> 
> - John
> 
> 
>
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