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Re: [microsound] copyright issues



Hello All.

I'm *not* Peter btw - Lubna Azhar - IP lawyer (specialise in commercial contracts, copyright, trade marks etc etc advising mainly creative people and companies).

Without knowing the details, some general guidance:

Are you actually re-recording or sampling the track? If so, you'll need a mechanical / sampling licence?

Where music is played in a public place, the owners of the copyright in the recording and the owners of the copyright in the composition are entitled to be paid - this is simpler than it sounds. Next time, you are out in a bar or cafe, look out for stickers on the window (PPL / PRS). This means that the venue is registered to play music and the artists and writers get paid.

If the venue isn't already licenced, you can get a temporary licence.

I hope this helps.

Lubna

PS for prehistoric rock:

http://www.pauldevereux.co.uk/new/body_forsale.html#Stoneagesoundtracks

On 25 Nov 2004, at 10:40, guiver ben wrote:

hello all,

er another post: i'm doing a sound installation for my
art exhibition in january in london. i need to find
out how formal the copyright thing is if i use, say,
an autechre track in the sound installation (which
would obviously be credited).

whats the copyright position? do i need to get some
kind of special licence? or what? people play records
in clubs and no-one gets busted-well i never did in a
multitude of places that i'm pretty certain didn't pay
$ to the Performing Rights Commision (uk).

anyway: i'd be grateful ofr any help and advice.

best

ben guiver

ps: if anyone would like to come to the exhibition, or
wants more info, email me and i'll send you a poster,
press release.
--- Julian Knowles <julianknowles@xxxxxxx> wrote:


On Thursday, November 25, 2004, at 05:20 AM, Peter Price wrote:

listen to a pop song from a thousand years ago

Via what means? A time tunnel? All we have are modern interpretations of incomplete sources.... most of the notated material is sacred music (as the church had the means to production), very few 'hard facts' exist of the secular repertoire to which I assume you are alluding (jongleurs, troubadors etc...). There is enough disagreement about what actually went on in this music to feed an entire academic community... For a start, durational notation didn't come in until much later... so how are you proposing we interpret the rhythmic aspects of the work? Are you a 'rhythmic modes' subscriber? What metrical structure do you propose? The recordings you hear are interpretations which a fair amount of guesswork. Educated guessing is part and parcel of the early music scholar's work...

and what do you hear...a melody using a seven
note scale organized
around a central pitch unfolding rhythmically in a
regular pulse (from
the tempo of a slow walk to that of a fast
heartbeat) in a duble or
triple meter...likely moving through on average 3
harmonic areas (i.e
chords)

this is conjecture (see above), but I think you are a rhythmic modes person!!!

listen today...same thing

to what? Again, this is so loose I can't get a hold of what you are saying....

Mainstream chart music? Prog rock, microsound?
breakcore? minimal
techno?

that scale...not even imagine you were an alien
from another planet
scale...simple musically literate scale.

tell that to nasenbluten

Consider the biggest chart topper of the middle
ages "L'omme
arme"...no one would bat an eye if Bjork sang that
song.

At least this example has a manuscript!

'bjork-ised', or according to the best knowledge of
the performance
practice of the renaissance - not middle ages -  (in
a church service)?
Or are you suggesting that production and
performance practice are
'superficial' stylistic details and the production
process and
performance would have no bearing on how it was
received?

Have we lost the ability to think past superficial
style?

this makes no sense to me.... It might be the
brevity of your posts,
but your argument feels like a serious of
unqualified sweeping
statements which pass over a lot of the critical
detail.. I think its a
lot more complicated than you are trying to suggest.




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