Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections)

[Peter Price <pprice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

In the “real world” however I think it seems pretty clear that there is 
an entertainment/art line somewhere. After all, some of us seem to be 
building our career on disputing where exactly this line lies. To 
pretend the line simply does not exist is usually pretty disingenuous.

Our understanding of this line is culturally determined…a group like 
this will have a somewhat broad agreement about where to place Britney 
Spears on the entertainment/art continuum, and likely a less broad 
agreement about Autechre (or fill in the blank yourself).

As Tobias demonstrated in his two essays he provided links for, these 
questions are not without consequence because how they are answered 
determines the possibilities for expressing ourselves in our desired 
way (by being funded, curated, booked, invested in, etc.)

Furthermore I have never understood what exactly we gain by saying art 
doesn’t exist? Would it be equally valid to say that entertainment 
doesn’t exist? If not, what does this inequality say about our culture? 
Everyone agrees that entertainment is an existing sphere of activity, 
but the sphere of Art is hotly contended. Is this because art defines 
itself against entertainment, making entertainment primary? Is this 
just another way of saying that the desire to be entertained is 
universal but the desire to be (what? Arted?) is felt by a smaller 
group of people (mutant perhaps?)

On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 03:20 PM, chthonic streams wrote:

>> One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They 
>> are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand 
>> something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment.
>
> there are exceptions of course.  the main one coming to mind being new 
> order.
>
> d.
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