Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture

[billy <glitchkitten@xxxxxxxxx>]

it is also a fantastic tension to deal with as an artist.

a "line" that is best dealt with when ignored entirely, no?

refuse to force yourself to either side and you end up as a glorious 
beginner - doing something NEW!

(i'm running a dj/vj course this spring and this divide is "the moment" 
of the course)

i think "claiming" either side definitely causes troubles for 
"legitimacy" or (gasp) "authenticity" but the artist should be 
cognizant of where he/she may fall when someone drops that line on 
them.

personally, i listen to the music first.

sometimes a "really high-operating artsy" release can contain in it the 
more "simple" pleasures of a more "popular" work....a very "popular" 
artist (oh, let's say DJ Spooky, to keep within the subject) may put 
out a large and praised body of work whose popularity I cannot 
understand.

next?

b.


On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:57 PM, tobias c. van Veen wrote:

> Sounds like the topic of an intensive paper -- if not book.
>
> Of note, I'm intrigued by the "vs." -- I've been a dj since the early 
> '90s,
> and a lover of all forms of experimental and other music since I began
> digging sound.
>
> I see no "vs.," I hear no "vs." ... well I guess I do it hear .. but 
> why?
>
> I bought Silent records and discovered electro-acoustoc at the same 
> time as
> industrial, acieed house, Detroit techno .. punk, grunge, jazz,
> psychedelia.. minimalism, repetition, happenings .. stockhausen, 
> boulez,
> technotronic ..
>
> What I do hear are a lot of people trying to draw lines in the sound --
>
> -- for reasons not of qualification [the marking of differentiation of
> application, performance, style, etc] but the aesthetic-ethical 
> demarcating
> of boundaries of legitimacy .. something else entirely ..
>
> Time to get out into that more brilliant sun,
>
>     tobias
>
> ps. Of note,
>
>     "The Black, the White, and the Mutek." Stylusmagazine.com, 
> 2003-02-10.
>     http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=37
>
> > What is the relationship between "microsound" and "DJ culture?" Is the
> > first a subset of the second...a stylistic genre? Are they completely
> > separate, culturally autonomous realms? Or somewhere in between?
> >
> > If DJ culture is about popular music, is microsound about unpopular
> > music?
> >
> > What role does race legitimately play in musical discourse. Is DJ
> > culture really related more to "people of color" than what? non-DJ
> > culture? Is microsound a music of people of non-color?
> >
> > Does the terminology "DJ Culture" itself prevent critique by 
> > presenting
> > itself as more than just music. In what way is this really the case?
> >
> > I am trying to answer these questions for myself with little 
> > definitive
> > luck so far. Can anyone help me out?
> >
> >
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