Re: [microsound] Make your own vinyl

[graham miller <grahammiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

well written.

but your problem with that certain bedroom bore (to use aphex's description of
himself) is not due to the limitations of digital technology; it's that he is
simply a bad or amateur musician. trying to emulate a musical aesthetic with
which he is completely unfamiliar (that not to mention, an aesthetic that
prides itself in the authencity of the analogue).

why bother?

i've always thought the point of new musical technology is to create new kinds
of music. i'm from the school of thought that says a synth should sound like a
synth and not a sitar.

the whole point of ableton live, and even final scratch, to a lesser extent, is
to create new kinds of music that are impossible in the analogue realm, i would
hope. why emulate a vinyl aesthetic when there are so many more possibilities
cracked wide open by a CPU?





"tobias c. van Veen" wrote:

> Hear, hear.
>
> I had someone send me an .MP3 of a Traktor or somesuch mix. Asking for a
> gig. Telling me he was a DJ. After a year of "djing." In the bedroom. With a
> laptop.
>
> Besides a complete lack of programming, passion, mixing styles, use of the
> mixer, EQ, a complete neglect of the cross-fader, line cuts, slow fades, an
> utter absence of tension, flagrance & fusion, hotheadness & cool recovery,
> one of the mixes was "off".
>
> Oh, I'll fix it, he said.
>
> And so it was fixed.
>
> Clean.
>
> As a pickle.
>
> Perfect pickle music.
>
> For perfect plastic people.
>
> Who can't tell the difference.
>
> Between your hand and that test tube --
>
> Did you know that a very clean rectum can hold a lot of bullshit?
>
>     - tV
>
> > yeah, aside from the sheer pain of lugging heavy
> > records around, it is still the best dj medium, by
> > far. even the little things -- like searching thru
> > records for the right song/groove are far more
> > exciting/fun & rewarding then having your eyes glued
> > to the screen, scrolling thru lists for a passable
> > (sound quality-wise) mp3... (i am endlessly surprised
> > that people think mp3's sound ok over a serious sound
> > system.. to me it they sound sub-standard most often
> > -> the highs are off, the low end is shyte, etc. etc.
> > No? I mean come on.. mp3's, aside from their
> > portability are crap...)
> >
> >
> > But, the dream of digital is exciting (modular,
> > sleekly portable, endlessly flexible, huge storage,
> > etc.). And it will come one way or the other...
> >
> > right now, you can spend a whole lot of time neatly
> > organizing your laptop dj thang to be some kind of
> > incredible set, with all kinds of segueys etc.
> >
> > but to me, this doesn't seem like dj'ing, as much as a
> > kind of presentation.
> >
> > To me, what makes dj'ing take off is a certain direct
> > instrumental spontaneoity, that goes on live, not
> > fixed sets, or limited range of physical change you
> > can make to the sound (i.e. the ridiculous scratching
> > on Traktor or Mixx, etc.).   At present, records are
> > essential -- for the real dj set...
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Make your own vinyl
> > Message-Id:
> > <28ECE4B2-8C00-4B45-BEE4-68562BD3BAA9@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >> IMHO, as long as there will be DJ's, there will be
> >> vinyl. There's
> >> certainly a huge trend for DJ's to use
> > laptops/traktor >and a
> >> combination of iPods and CDs, but plenty of them love
> >> the feel and
> >> design of vinyl. As a DJ I know I prefer spinning
> >> vinyl over anything
> >> else, especially as a physical thing. For me, playing
> >> vinyl is
> >> playing an instrument, and nowhere close to doing the
> >> same thing with
> >> digital media.
> >
> >
> >
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