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Re: [microsound] being 'political' in non-verbal music



From: roberth;

> i like marches.
> especially those of ives and braxton.

Me too, especially those by Wolfgang Voight (techno counts, right?). I also
like some waltzes and some odd time signature Jazz. I even like a ATR track
or two.

> isn't equating marches with oppression overly simplistic?
> r

Well, yes in the case of mr. Empire. In the case of Vietnam era black
soldiers I´d say it´s a little obvious but not realy that simplistic as
such. I don´t think "simplistic" and "political" are opposed either.
"Simplistic" and "artistic value" could perhaps be considdered to be opposed
but simplicity is often very successfull politically (examples of this will
be found in tomorow´s newspaper, I´m sure). To me some of that Jazz sounds
quite succesfull artistically too.

I don´t realy see your problem, notice also that I said nothing about the
relative value of either marches (or marching for that matter) or political
systems; I merely pointed out and speculated on a possible angle on this.
I´m not at all fundamentally oposed to marches, if I were I´d need to look
for different boots :¬).

One other interesting example is Chopin´s adoption of traditional Polish
forms as a political statement of patriotism. That could be argued to be
simplistic just as easily but that doesn´t harm my enjoyment of those pieces
at all, even if admittedly they do not convey their intended meaning to me
personally, then again, I´m not polish, just like I was never shipped off to
Vietnam.

Yours,
Kas.



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