Re: [microsound] hotline server?

[Julian Knowles <julianknowles@xxxxxxx>]

On 13/06/2005, at 12:18 PM, John Nowak wrote:

> I'm not paying for such a client, especially when an FTP server and 
> IRC (and perhaps a forum) would do just as well, if not better, with 
> tools people are more familiar with.

the plural 'tools' is the operative word... which i think is why people 
bother developing a tool (singular)  which performs the range of 
required functions. You have listed 3 - ftp client, irc client, web 
browser. Thats a cluttered desktop and it is not entirely ergonomic or 
inviting.

>  You could even do it all in a web-based way using some content 
> management system.

as a matter of interest, the sevcom people were doing that for many 
years..., and indeed, i think, were pioneers of the 'free web space for 
artists' idea. This was not ultimately successful, for a range of 
reasons, which led them to consider other options.  Also, CMS through a 
web browser is like trying to sprint through quicksand.

This is not a question of trying to find the cheapest technology to 
make simple functions possible (chat, posts, file storage etc...). 
There are lots of cheap/free ways of doing just about anything.  Its 
about the subtle dynamics of online communication and interaction and 
the way in which an interface or software environment can assist or 
develop that in interesting ways.

> KDX is also a hideously atrocious piece of crap, and the author is a 
> real ass.

those are strong opinions. care to elaborate?  and have you 
communicated as such to the developer?
> And no, I'm not just saying that because I wish more people here would 
> add their works to ruccas.org ... *ahem*

which seems to be a wiki - ok as publishing space, but not so great for 
interaction, no?

I would commend anyone's efforts to promote and foster the community, 
but (not to be negative) this kind of thing is where sevcom was a 
number of years ago and the KDX experiment is about trying to rekindle 
some sense of interaction where the communication can range from one to 
one, to one to many, from real-time to non-real time etc... A lot of 
people have tried a lot of different things and I think we need to 
learn from that collective experience.

cheers

julian



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