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Re: [microsound] time
there is no time before coffee.
--- Bill Jarboe <billjarboe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> hello Tim Kugel,
>
> I don't know if I have any answers to your
> questions. I have had some
> thoughts concerning time and maybe a few clues.
>
> Long ago in a physics class when asked the
> question "What is Time?" a
> stoner girl who was he best friend of a close friend
> of mine replied:
> "A device invented by man for measuring change."
> This proves beyond the
> shadow of a doubt that if you find the right stoner
> girl at the right
> time you could learn alot.
>
> Some ancient philosophers claimed that time was
> excrement. There is
> the perception of representations of time or devices
> for measuring time
> being something processed by humans then discarded.
>
> Perhaps more help , and something I read long ago
> (yet not quite so
> long ago as the physics class) in one of those
> spiritually oriented
> tabloid magazines; was the statement of some guru
> like fellow that 'it
> is important to consider time in things instead of
> things in time'.
>
> I've had troubles recently with the idm crowd's
> concepts of tempo. For
> instance the idea that something 167 bpm is faster
> than something 112
> bpm. When I think of what goes fast: birds, light ,
> learjets and so
> forth I don't imagine them going bangety bang bang
> or boom boom ( well
> , an old fashioned supersonic plane makes a boom ,
> that's just once or
> twice(the futuristic ones might make a swoosh) ). It
> seems that your
> concept of 'free time' might mean a state where
> different awarenesses
> of time can exist at the same time without a
> conflict that could make
> them dysfunctional. Someone napping on a plane
> flight wearing a watch
> holding a plant which is growing and metabolizing a
> gin and tonic.
>
> I know it's annoying to devise one's own
> definitions for words and
> then foist them on other people: it might help to
> consider 'tempo' in
> the same regard as 'temporary' and 'template' .
> Something to assist in
> setting up a series of events. It isn't the setting
> up of the events
> that make the music , it is the memory of those
> events ; outside of
> time , or at least from a different perspective.
>
>
> I've had a few experiences where I thought
> something was out of time
> and later discovered , when it was processed
> differently or something
> was added to the sound , that it wasn't . I think it
> is very good to
> trust and develop one's instincts in this regard.
> There was one piece
> from Andrea Gabriele's 'Pregnant Series' that had a
> kind of hip hop
> feel yet it paused at certain places and this drove
> me crackers at
> first since a hip hop producer would not pause like
> that. Then I looked
> up the definition of 'apostrophe' and learned it
> was 'a turning away'
> and thought the piece was brilliant. I think it's
> good sometimes to
> trust your feelings , to let things breathe . If you
> want to make holes
> in something perhaps the music is telling you
> something more relevant
> than adhering to a metronomic pulse.
>
> There is a song by La Düsseldorf 'Time' which
> might address some of
> the questions though I 'm not exactly sure. I tried
> a quick search for
> the mp3... don't know where I found it.
>
>
>
> -bill
>
> http://chilowethiastoneindex.blogspot.com
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~billjarboe/sapbb.html
>
>
> On May 4, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Tim Kugel wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Question about time as it relates to gear (MTC,
> Beat Clock, din sync
> > and clock @
> > different ppq...etc.). I realize I don;t know much
> about this. Is
> > there a good
> > online source to study the concept as it relates
> to gear development?
> > And, time
> > is so essential to nature and there are those who
> feel a natural
> > (periodicy?)
> > uh...periodical source is better than a digital
> one....or at least
> > different in
> > some way they hear. Of course we al can hear a
> quantized "correction."
> > And
> > musicans love "free time" and they love "tight"
> time (right?). So I
> > was
> > thinking...would you deifine free time as
> >
> > a. random fluculations in periodic time....vs less
> of same?
> > b. absolute fluculations in periodic time....vs
> rate/speed of same?
> >
> > I mean for the purposes of music. Is free time
> random time to you?
> > Metaphysical
> > thoughts? Or - do you think there is only one
> time?
> >
> > In a yin yang way - absolute time is freeing. Are
> wave periods
> > (albeit over time)
> > are more accuate from period to period than
> absolute value bits,
> > becuase bits
> > don't dance and have two left feet - schedulers or
> priorities - is
> > that it?
> > Random time is freeing...but is that the same as
> free time? I know its
> > just
> > words....thanks for your thoughts! - tim
> > ps and great randomizer apps/patches you like that
> play with time?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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