From: "cHristian negre i walczak" <applejux@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:33:28 +0200
hi again peeps,
i understood the title digital as audio which doesn't depend on physical
media and i even dare to think that's what most have, right? could you
ralph
explain why is it a narrow view? do please help me open my mind.
one of the most important moments in the history of photography was when
the
artists decided to forget the reality. that is when a machine developed
among a century to 'capture' and 'freeze' the world suddenly left behind
its
main objective.
i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and
listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic
feeling towards music.
as everyone has, i have some song which are kept deeply in my heart, but
not
so much because of the quality of the music but for the experiences lived
with them.
have a nice day!
On 6/26/06, steinbrüchel <steinbruchel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
and the question above all to start a really big discussion ;)
when is an album "digital" or what makes it "digital"? the title
of this topic (in my opinion) already suggests a narrowed down
view of format...
thank you,
ralph.
Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "steinbrüchel" unter
<steinbruchel@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below:
>
> in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first
> are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks
> that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest
> up over time.
>
> also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never
> throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might
> change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view
> of sound and music...
>
> my 5 rappen,
> ralph.
>
>
> Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter
> <doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format...
>>
>> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the
>> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;)
>> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are
>> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts
>> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more
>> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of
>> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good'). there is
subsequently
>> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which
>> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'.
>>
>> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is
>> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not
>> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute
4
>> track EP of top quality punk is also ok!
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote:
>>
>>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep
>>> tracks i
>>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an
>>> album, so
>>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps
>>> are a
>>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.
>>>
>>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <p.b-j@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is probably an old debate...
>>>>
>>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be
>>>> complete
>>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to
>>>> an
>>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the
>>>> distribution
>>>> and
>>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For
>>>> example, on
>>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few
>>>> things
>>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track
by
>>>> track
>>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an
old
>>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you
>>>> think?
>>>> Will
>>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration
>>>> depending on
>>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). Or is
>>>> 60
>>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
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