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Op 27-aug-06 om 21:03 heeft Balazs Gerofi het volgende geschreven:

I think anything that a neural network does is represented by an algorithm.
They might mean that they proved some sort of an existence theorem.
Anyway, this "not reproducible neural network" sounds quite strange:)

non-reproducible as in situation specific probably...










Regards, Balazs

On 8/27/06, David Powers <cyborgk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I believe what they mean is, the results cannot be reproduced, unless the neural network is properly trained. Without the training, which was possibly done on a trial-and-error basis, the neural network will not give successful results.

The neural network itself is an algorithm, but there is no algorithm
that you can run and get the successful results without the step of
training the neural net.

Although - I believe the training process itself should be able to be
represented by an algorithm ...

~David

On 8/27/06, Balazs Gerofi <bgerofi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the article says:
> "The computer we use is doing the work without an algorithmic program.
It
> uses a system called a neural net..."
>
> May I ask someone to explain why a neural network is not an algorithm?
>
>
> Regards,
> Balazs
>
> On 8/26/06, Graham Miller <grahammiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > >> http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009
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> > On 26-Aug-06, at 3:02 PM, isjtar junior wrote:
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> > > hi,
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> > > that link doesn't seem to work, care to fix me a different one?
> > > thanks
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> > > isjtar
> > > Op 25-aug-06 om 20:22 heeft Hans Erik Nilsson het volgende
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> > >> New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites?
> > >> [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009]
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> > >> /Cheers,
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