[microsound] Re: objet petit a

[tasty radish <tastyradish@xxxxxxxxx>]

i think lacan also wrote/said ".. the real is the effect of the symbolic of the imaginary"..

play with the 'text'.. reveal the desire of the sound... its 'drive' (not always obvious), its remnants... as cultural artifact (i suggest)... as an effect of will/history to symbolize... soundbytes. "samples". ( re-sutured. extracted to the margin-point of recognition/reference... suspended/re-fragmented/re-arranged). not sure if Innoncence is possible (not sure what you mean by this?).. nor neccesarily desirable...(purity? --a wish beyond time/mortality? --fascism of the Super comes to my mind...).. though a space between the 'author' and the Work is possible.. such that the work speaks on its own terms (more or less), that is, in its own limits which is paradoxically a space that allows for the beyond... 

the trick.. or one of The key things.. (at least with Lacan).. was/is the Impossible...

hey, thinking of the rupture point with the real... walter benjamin always comes to mind.. a kind of haunting or slippage between states occurs (archive project and idea of repitition/archive/juxtaposition/everday/event...).. where presenting the 'dead (recent, boring/taboo) past' in a certain way reveals its Real.. and hence re-skews or alienates, in an interesting way, the ongoing alienation of our present (as it is the same, on a certain level --eventually, a 'dead past', as the forgotten dead past of our childhoods, culturally -- from fads to forgotten histories, struggles, etc.)... allowing us to see.. to maybe perceive something of what is going on, in what we normally call, everday "reality"...

-a

 



"It is here that I propose that the interest the subject takes in his own 
split is bound up with that which determines it -- namely, a privileged 
object, which has emerged from some primal separation, from some 
self-mutilation induced by the approach of the real, whose name, in our 
algebra, is the /objet a/." -Jacques Lacan, _the Four Fundamental Concepts 
of Psycho-Analysis_

Difficulties of interpretation owing to his obscurantist tendencies aside, 
in Lacan's discourse there appears to be no Ultimate Reality knowable (if 
at best conceivable) reflected of 
which are the images we manipulate, the above "approach of the real" 
suggesting that the unqualified real entails that which is delivered by 
apprehension, but not that which apprehension meets against, if one is 
allowed to place oneself in the the Knower Before Knowers' reference 
frame. Obvious potential anguish and confusion ensue from the lack of 
certainty in real's equivalence to real.

I ask of those .microsounders who in their work have approached the 
certainty of the real to what extent and how they have so done. Is it 
possible to investigate the onions within onions on a timbral basis? In 
cutting up or resequencing the components of voice samples, is there any 
way to favor one truth kernel over another? What developments have occurred 
on the technological front that concerns itself with modifying voice 
recordings for broadcast such that the modification is unnoticed, or 
displays its traces as innocent?

-- 
Dear Patron Saint,
your lips are lopsided
www.devo.com/exegene

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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:59:18 +1200
To: microsound 
From: Damian Stewart 
Subject: Re: [microsound] objet petit a
Message-ID: <44CEEDB6.7030900@xxxxxxxxxx>

Exegene wrote:
> way to favor one truth kernel over another? What developments have occurred 
> on the technological front that concerns itself with modifying voice 
> recordings for broadcast such that the modification is unnoticed, or 
> displays its traces as innocent?

less technological and more political/economical but i think immediately of 
the rise of and contraction in length of the 'soundbite' as a piece of 
language that is supposed to say everything there is to say about a 
particular side in a media-based argument.

of course, there are those who consider the soundbite as something that 
actually fosters democracy, by forcing those who wish to gain influence to 
condense their message to a simple kernel easily understood by the masses.. 
whether this makes sense is another matter.

-- 
f r e y
live music with machines
http://www.frey.co.nz





 		
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