Re: [microsound] context

[Randal Davis <randal_davis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry, Ian, and list.  Horrible typo.  Sentence should read, as you would
probably guess, "I do not deny..."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randal Davis" <randal_davis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <dr144@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] context


> Absolutely correct, Ian, in your fundamental point, which is why, in my
> original post, the word "accident" was bracketed.  I do deny the
mechanisms
> of Reich's historical embedding in the least.  I sought only to sketch a
few
> possible modalities of what "historical engagement" has meant.
>
> At the same time, I am less sanguine about your conclusion, that
"therefore
> a historical framework that legitimized his discovery as one of artistic
> merit had been established."
>
> Not so many years after his initial tape works, Reich premiered Four
Organs,
> under the direction of Michael Tilson Thomas, in the context of a
decidedly
> non-avant-garde milieu, with results that nearly provoked a riot - see his
> own, and MTT's accounts of this.
>
> Again, I think, we see different modes of historical legitimation in
> operation.  Yes?
>
> Thanks for your articulate response - I hope the list continues the
> discussion in this manner.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ian Reddy" <dr144@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [microsound] context
>
>
> > >Then, too, there are the "accidents," e.g., Reich's discovery of
phasing
> in
> > >tape loops.
> >
> > To characterize the discovery of tape phasing as 'accidental' does not
> > deny Reich's situation within a certain historical 'context'.  In a
> > different milieu Reich could have discarded such an accident as
something
> > that sounded horrible and worthless. His discovery occured in an already
> > lengthy and deep tradition of avant-garde exploration amongst artists
and
> > hence he was able to identify the results of such an 'accident' as being
> > potentially relevant to human culture, regardless of whether or not tape
> > phasing had any immediate successors or was discovered with any explicit
> > intent.  Perhaps a knowledge of history was not necessary to discover
tape
> > phasing, but the discovery occured at a time when artists were searching
> > for such ideas and therefore a historical framework that legitimized his
> > discovery as one of artistic merit had been established.
> >
> >
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