Re: [microsound] sgnidroceR esreveR

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What I call "virtual non-linear" is the polyrythms AE develop that are not
reduced only to playing 3/4 over 4/4 or stuff like that. One good example
it track 5 "Iera". Listen to time 3.47. The section that starts there
combines different tempos and time signatures within the same bar or group
of bars. Sounds like they had combined completely different tracks into
one groovy fluid musical unit. The LP has examples like this all over. LP5
has some examples like these too. Many people think they use generative
patches to produce this odd rythms, but thats not true. This is the result
of painstaking sample selection and audio editing.

I would like to know if anybody knows anything similar to this in
electronic music. I havent found nothing like AE, even though there are
millons of copycats.



> Listen to Autechre's (not them again!) album "untilted"
> There are rythms there that can be easily labeled as "virtual non-linear"
> I have been exploring extra-ordinary rythmical possibilities for some
> years now, and can assure that this is one of the best examples that can
> be found of rythmical paradoxes.
>
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>> On 2006 Sep 05, at 11:00 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
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>>> I doubt that there are any such cultures.
>>>
>>> Sure, the ordering of actions, objects, subjects, etc can be
>>> "reversed" in some languages, but all are limited by the fact that the
>>> voice can only make one layer of sound at a time (unless it's a
>>> Mongolian throat singer).
>>
>> Sound communication of ideas doesn't have to be done just vocally.
>> One could imagine an indigenous culture where a vocal utterance
>> occurring simultaneously with a shuffle of feet in a pile of leaves
>> would mean something different than the same vocal utterance
>> with a stomping of feet on dry ground. The two sounds being inseparably
>> intertwined.
>>
>>
>>> It's also harder to process multiple lines of audio at once:  try
>>> listening to two people saying completely different things at once,
>>> it's like an audible Necker Cube
>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necker_cube).  So since we cannot layer
>>> the meaning encoded within language "harmonically," it must be
>>> communicated "melodically" or in temporal sequence.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We have "harmolodics" and what a wonderful sound it is!
>>
>>
>> Rod
>>
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