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~Kyle

On 10/4/06, Michael Edwards <m@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> But I wasn't wondering why people have a problem with any of the
> so-called implementations of Marxism as opposed to Deleuze-ism (which
> isn't a political system of course--it isn't even an -ism yet); that's
> obvious, as you point out.  I was wondering why people have a problem
> when Marx or Socialism themselves in isolation are merely mentioned.  If
> people can't distinguish between Marxism and Stalinism or Pol Potism
> then there's no basis for discussion.  That would be like not
> recognising the difference between the ideals of democracy and how it's
> apparently exported to and implemented in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. etc.
>
> All the best,
>
>         Michael
>
>
> Aaron Ximm wrote:
> >>> it's funny how when someone invokes Deleuze it isn't slapped down
> >>> as 'dogma' -- but utter the words 'Marxism' and all of a sudden
> >>> everything that comes out of your mouth is branded as diatribe or
> >>>  dogma
> >> I agree.  It's weird how the eyes roll and the feathers get ruffled
> >> when you mention those dirty words 'Marx' and 'Socialism'.  Some of
> >> the messages in this thread give me the impression that one or two
> >> people would like to censor out any leftist commentary.  Why, I
> >> wonder?
> >
> > There's no mystery at all why people (myself too) react this way.
> >
> > Marx[ism] has been [mis]understood, [mis]applied, and used as a cloak
> > for incomprehensibly vast exercises in human stupidity at its worst
> > for what, a hundred years now?
> >
> > Deleuze for only a few dozen.
> >
> > Put another way, almost all of us have known idiots of one stripe or
> > another declaiming their idiocy under the banner of Marx [or
> > progeny].
> >
> > Very few of us under the banner of Deleuze.
> >
> > Give it a few years!
> >
> > aaron
> >
> > ghede@xxxxxxxx http://www.quietamerican.org
> >
> > |  quod omne animal post   | |  cogitum est triste...   |
> >
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