Re: [microsound] Ignorance is merely ignorance

[shift8 <shift8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

had you ever actually written any code, you wouldn't be on like this
Jason.  "widget", "hack", etc.  

you can't take advantage of the features that make this device
interesting to media artists with a "widget".  endy story.

On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 11:08 -0600, Jason Hollis wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kim Cascone" <kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "microsound_list" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:20 AM
> Subject: [microsound] marketing is manipulation
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> >I doubt that widgets that work on full-bodied OS X will also work on
> > the iPhone OS X
> 
> You _doubt_? You don't _know_?
> I _know_ - It uses OS X widgets.
> Read the other articles I posted, or do some searching.
> 
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> > http://www.slipperybrick.com/2007/01/jobs-says-apple-iphone-os-x-not-open-like-mac/
> 
> Awful article, pooly researched.
> 
> That's correct, its not wide open for development yet like the mac.
> But neither is it hardware-closed like the xbox, impossible to alter.
> It's 'closed' like the iPod, where you CAN change its functions, but its not 
> officially sanctioned or supported.
> 
> Apparently this is a subtle distinction, as many steamroller right over it.
> The author of that article, for example.
> 
> Either is a device that,  yes, Apple doesnt officially sanction adding 
> software to it (yet) as they want it to be stable and function well as what 
> it was intended to be - an mp3 player or a fancy early-adopter smartphone.
> 
> And yet, people ARE already hacking new functions into the iPod.
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ipod+hack
> 
> And they WILL do the same with the iPhone.
> Because its NOT completely closed off, as I've gone into at great length.
> Of course, the iPhone hardware has far greater functionality than a mere 
> iPod, and therefore its potential is greater.
> 
> Thus, this thread.
> 
> Apple just wont support it - YET.
> Which is where you and others keep getting 'closed'.
> And why would they?   This is re-tasking and hacking, to varying degrees.
> This has been my point all along, had you deigned to read any of the 
> material I provided.
> 
> And as for hardware add ons - it uses the iPod digital interface.
> Thousands of products use this interface:
> http://www.apple.com/ipod/accessories.html
> 
> So I suggest you read the articles I posted previously and educate yourself.
> Or stay off the subject until you do.  Either way.
> Whatever.  Free country.
> 
> 
> ~!J!
> http://www.endif.org
> http://www.crunchpod.com
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