Hi > I think one member of snd is also part of the Shirt Trax project on Touch, > though I haven´t heard this one. I have also heard that both are snd and shirt trax...I have both cds and they are quite different from each other.Shirt trax is experimental processor noise, snd is more tech/glitch/dub. I really like the Shirt trax cd its just a chockas with amazing sounds rss