RE: [microsound] 1000 Plateaux

[lamm <lamm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 actually you shouldn't be scared not to be interested in the subjects - as
concerns "anti oedipa" (is it titled as such in English - it is
'L'Anti-Oedipe" in french), what remains (and what is interseting) are the
patterns, the concepts, which are mostly abstract. It is the same with Mille
Plateaux. There are very few concetps in it, and numerous examples
throughout the different "plateaux" (i.e/ intermingled chapters). So it
doesn't matter where you begin,in fact... As for the difficluty... well,
Deleuze is a rather cryptic writer, linguistically. But you just need to
understand that a lot of his sentences are rather abstract and vague because
they tend to explore the frontiers of philosophy. It is not as with more
"classic" philosophers like Spinoza or Husserl where you need to understand
everything. Very often, you understand what he means broadly after you read
10 pages...(a bit like Nietzsche, in fact) and even then it's very difficult
to summarize his pensée. All that beacuse I am lucky enough to read him in
French. I don't really know what the translations are worth of. Don't give
up the reading, Mille PLateaux becomes fascinationg in the fifth plateau (I
admit the plateaux on linguistics and stratas are a bit .. precise when they
don't need to be) but read "micropolitique et segmentarité" it's brilliant
and very easy to understand,I think. Also try one of his early books,
"Logique du Sens", it's brilliant...........Anyway, Deleuze is not at all an
"unreadable" philosopher. You just need to get used to his way of writing
(and I agree that he loves to use vary cryptic terms... But, like Michel
Serres, they very often come from physics)and thinking... It is "open"
philosophy (and a lot of French philosophers, like Jacques Bouveresse, tend
to think and to write that this way of "opening" philosophy is the worst
thing that happened to it this century and thayt we should all come back to
Heidegger... anyway) and therefore it is philopsophy where you can pick
whatever you need to in it.  Which also means that you have to READ THE
BOOKS... of course. And it's long and difficult. But the reward is
priceless. O.
P.S- you could try, it it exists in a subtitiled version, his "Abécédaire"
which is a video of interviews with his friend Claire Parnet.
All it demands is to sit in front of your TV...
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> has anyone actually read Mille Plateaux?

	i borrowed a copy of this from a co-worker a couple weeks ago,
	talk about dense!  So many other things that i'm not familiar
	are referenced that i often could barely deduce the meaning.
	The topic seemed very interesting ("Capitalism & Schizophrenia"),
	and the discussions pertaining directly to a rhizome model were
	intriguing, but i got frustrated and ended up skimming much
	of it (good illustrations, although there aren't many).
	I'll have to come back to it later in life i suppose (coming
	from a person who made 3 tries before finishing Hofstadter's
	"Godel, Escher, & Bach" a fun book!)
	n.
	"Don't it pain to see someone cry, especially when someone is
	 her.  Silence is golden, but my eyes still see, Silence is golden,
	 golden, but my eyes still see..."	-the tremeloes
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